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[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

Most of Trumps supporters think all the Trump-Epstien connections are liberal fabrications. Some of them are convinced that Trump was a secret FBI agent working undercover to expose the whole operation.

Hard evidence will never convince the delusional masses who worship him.

MAGAts only wanted the files released so they could be used to attack "them librul pedos"

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

This gets posted every now and then, and the consensus in the comments is typically that this is an incredibly dumb thought, but somehow it has a thousand upvotes over 20 downvotes. What gives?

[–] JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Geopolitics really be turning into play your strongest card and hope for chaos 😬

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 44 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I honestly don't understand how you Americans still seem to believe that anything in the Epstein files could possibly harm Trump. It was known before the 2016 election, that he was peeping in dressing rooms at Miss Teen contests. Before the 2016 election he bragged about sexually assalting women. Before the 2024 election he was convicted for sexual abuse.

And people did vote for him, not despite of that, but because of it. Because they are misogynistic assholes who adore and envy him for doing stuff like that.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 5 hours ago

I think most of these things are why he got elected. He did the things the average american wishes he could do.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

yea we all know america is a pedocracy.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

pedocracy

Ruled by a child? Yeah, that fits.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No that's an infentocract. A pedocracy is ruled by pedos

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Mixing Latin and Greek roots? You sociopath^1^.

Yes, pedocracies are ruled by pedos; the Greek word for 'child'. See also Pedagogy (teaching children), pediatrics (medicine for children), and pedophily (sexual attraction to children).

A society ruled by pedophiles would be a pedophilocracy. From the Greek words 'pedos' (child), 'philia' (lust), and 'cratos' (rule). Like aristocracy (rule by the best), democracy (rule by the people), or autocracy (rule by oneself).


^1^: from Latin 'socius' (comrade) and Greek 'pathos' (caring).

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Because if he committed an actual, irrefutable crime, like raping a 13 year old, or being heavily involved with the trafficking of minors, it doesn't matter if he's president, he should still face the law. The fact that Republicans wouldn't consider that disqualifying should not be relevant.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The fact that Republicans wouldn’t consider that disqualifying should not be relevant.

Unfortunately, it is relevant. The double standard is insane.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

But he already committed multiple irrefutable crimes, like the aforementioned Sexual abuse, Conspiracy against the United States, 34 other felonies and much more. He never had to face the law, because he owns the prosecutors as well as the judges.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

Don’t worry, USA has the best court system money can buy.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

He raped a 13 year old violently and there's probably video in those epstein files.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 17 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

And? These allegations were also known since 2016. But that didn't stop anyone from voting for him, twice.

  • His Conspiracy Theorist supporters will call it an AI fake, created by the deep state.
  • For his Christian voters he'll be redeemed if he pays 50 shekels to the girls father and marries her.
  • His nazi supporters might say: "Whell that's not nice. But at least he's getting rid of the immigrants."
  • His sexist supporters will say "Well 13 might be a bit young, but after all it's her fault for wearing such a short skirt. And with these kids nowadays you never know their real age".
  • His MAGA supporters will say "I don't care, he's our saviour. If he deems such things necessary, who am I to question him."
  • The Idiots say "Well he might be an asshole, but Kamala Harris also did some bad things."
  • And his courts say that it's already barred or he's got immunity or he just enacts a new law that makes rape legal if the perpetrator is a politician. He'll have the Congress's support, as soon as the files are released.

Did I forget anyone?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

But that didn’t stop anyone from voting for him, twice.

Most of them voted for him thrice

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Video of him raping a 13 year old girl is different.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 49 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Honestly I give the iranian disinformation team 1 of 5 stars, a pathetic job really.

I mean, they don't actually need to have the Epstein files, they can just start sharing stuff that seems plausible.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are making Lego memes that are pretty fire though.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Wasn't that like 90% the reason Sora AI shot down too? Nice.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they though?

It would be pretty easy to eviscerate Trump.

The videos and memes I've seen are a bit vanilla. More about trying to make Iran seem righteous and wholesome than trying to embarrass Trump.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 1 points 19 hours ago

They're pretty good

And yeah, his ego makes it easier than most but dang haha

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[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 25 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I've been seing stuff like this a lot lately, but it seems detached from reality to me. How does Iran benefit from the Epstein files?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The idea is that giving the ultimatum, regardless of whether the US obliges or not, would cause massive shift in power. They'd be hoping any changes in leadership would be better aligned with them.

Files released -> Traffickers imprisoned -> New sane leaders sworn in

Files withheld -> Greater discontent -> Elections swing harder left -> Dem majorities force war to end

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Because Trump is 100% willing to start a war so people stop talking about it. So he'll have to start another war somewhere else...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the whole world's leaders are in there, including a shit ton of bank execs. Trump will stop bombing before he lets the files get out. It truly is a solid plan.

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay sure, having and releasing the Epstein files can be adventagious for Iran. But what I don't see is how demanding the files would ever lead to peace. Wouldn't it only incite Trump and co. instead of getting to a reasonable negotiating position?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would lead to peace by decapitating the enemy.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Do you actually believe this?

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The reasoning would be: You're right. They don't care. But he will never voluntarily release them and it results in maximum embarrassment.

It wouldn't be a sincere negotiating tactic but it works because they don't need to negotiate.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This. Imagine a condition for terms of surrender is to unredact and release all files. And the Trump administration openly says "no" to that?

That would be a TERRIBLE admission by the administration

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Legit just flood the zone.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 95 points 2 days ago (43 children)

They can just hold the world’s supply of oil, ammonia and helium to ransom. Breaking an Iranian blockade by force would require a WW2-scale effort, with the US, Europe, China and the gulf states fighting alongside each other to take Tehran and impose some kind of regime change all parties find acceptable.

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