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[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 17 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I honestly don't understand how you Americans still seem to believe that anything in the Epstein files could possibly harm Trump. It was known before the 2016 election, that he was peeping in dressing rooms at Miss Teen contests. Before the 2016 election he bragged about sexually assalting women. Before the 2024 election he was convicted for sexual abuse.

And people did vote for him, not despite of that, but because of it. Because they are misogynistic assholes who adore and envy him for doing stuff like that.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

yea we all know america is a pedocracy.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Because if he committed an actual, irrefutable crime, like raping a 13 year old, or being heavily involved with the trafficking of minors, it doesn't matter if he's president, he should still face the law. The fact that Republicans wouldn't consider that disqualifying should not be relevant.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

But he already committed multiple irrefutable crimes, like the aforementioned Sexual abuse, Conspiracy against the United States, 34 other felonies and much more. He never had to face the law, because he owns the prosecutors as well as the judges.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He raped a 13 year old violently and there's probably video in those epstein files.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And? These allegations were also known since 2016. But that didn't stop anyone from voting for him, twice.

  • His Conspiracy Theorist supporters will call it an AI fake, created by the deep state.
  • For his Christian voters he'll be redeemed if he pays 50 shekels to the girls father and marries her.
  • His nazi supporters might say: "Whell that's not nice. But at least he's getting rid of the immigrants."
  • His sexist supporters will say "Well 13 might be a bit young, but after all it's her fault for wearing such a short skirt. And with these kids nowadays you never know their real age".
  • His MAGA supporters will say "I don't care, he's our saviour. If he deems such things necessary, who am I to question him."
  • The Idiots say "Well he might be an asshole, but Kamala Harris also did some bad things."
  • And his courts say that it's already barred or he's got immunity or he just enacts a new law that makes rape legal if the perpetrator is a politician. He'll have the Congress's support, as soon as the files are released.

Did I forget anyone?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Video of him raping a 13 year old girl is different.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 42 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Honestly I give the iranian disinformation team 1 of 5 stars, a pathetic job really.

I mean, they don't actually need to have the Epstein files, they can just start sharing stuff that seems plausible.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are making Lego memes that are pretty fire though.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they though?

It would be pretty easy to eviscerate Trump.

The videos and memes I've seen are a bit vanilla. More about trying to make Iran seem righteous and wholesome than trying to embarrass Trump.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago

They're pretty good

And yeah, his ego makes it easier than most but dang haha

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[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Legit just flood the zone.

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 22 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I've been seing stuff like this a lot lately, but it seems detached from reality to me. How does Iran benefit from the Epstein files?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The idea is that giving the ultimatum, regardless of whether the US obliges or not, would cause massive shift in power. They'd be hoping any changes in leadership would be better aligned with them.

Files released -> Traffickers imprisoned -> New sane leaders sworn in

Files withheld -> Greater discontent -> Elections swing harder left -> Dem majorities force war to end

[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

UNO reverse your regime change war goal

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Because the whole world's leaders are in there, including a shit ton of bank execs. Trump will stop bombing before he lets the files get out. It truly is a solid plan.

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Okay sure, having and releasing the Epstein files can be adventagious for Iran. But what I don't see is how demanding the files would ever lead to peace. Wouldn't it only incite Trump and co. instead of getting to a reasonable negotiating position?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

It would lead to peace by decapitating the enemy.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Because Trump is 100% willing to start a war so people stop talking about it. So he'll have to start another war somewhere else...

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The reasoning would be: You're right. They don't care. But he will never voluntarily release them and it results in maximum embarrassment.

It wouldn't be a sincere negotiating tactic but it works because they don't need to negotiate.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This. Imagine a condition for terms of surrender is to unredact and release all files. And the Trump administration openly says "no" to that?

That would be a TERRIBLE admission by the administration

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a typical American problem centre of the universe and all that.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 23 hours ago

What are you talking about? This is a war the US started, so of course they'd be the center of discussions on how to stop it.

If trump actually started the war to distract from the files, then Iran using it as leverage is a sensible thing to do.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 1 day ago

I think the thinking is that if you released the epstein files in their entirety Trump would be impeached.

Or maybe that's not really it. If you wanted to harm the US, then releasing the full unredacted epstein files is probably the easiest way to achieve maximum chaos.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Trump was above Epstein in the operation and Israel controlled both of them. Plus all the stuff about Netanyahu sleeping with Jared Kushner. The main players in the Epstein files are literally the ones currently trying to massacre their entire country.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

I have no idea if the Kushner/Netanyahu thing is true, but have an upvote because it's funny.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 91 points 1 day ago (42 children)

They can just hold the world’s supply of oil, ammonia and helium to ransom. Breaking an Iranian blockade by force would require a WW2-scale effort, with the US, Europe, China and the gulf states fighting alongside each other to take Tehran and impose some kind of regime change all parties find acceptable.

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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Demanding Epstein files would be a sure shot way to get bombed.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

As if they're not already?

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck that, trade it for Trump dead or alive

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

or alive

No no, let's keep it simple.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

why would they want the US regime to change? It's a poor long term strategy, you want the useless idiots to ruin their country, not have them replaced by competent people.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think they would prefer people who weren't bombing their country with Israel.

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