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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 16 hours ago

so he is gonna be held accountable, right? right?

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 103 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is frustrating that we as a nation keep rooting around in a dead guy's files while ignoring what multiple living women are saying under oath.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, women have the ability to lie...... Unlike the president, who many people are saying is biggly honest, and the most honest man in history.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Honester than old Honest Abe, who hasn’t been nearly as honest since his death.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm amazed they are still alive. No "accidents", yet.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

How many of them aren’t alive that we don’t know of though?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] pazuzuzu@leminal.space 2 points 15 hours ago

Neither is Ivana Trump.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

Agreed. Going public about something like this is very stressful. I am surprised more of them haven't been unable to go on to the point that they shoot themselves twice in the back of the head before jumping out of a building in the exact moment the triple redundant security system happened to be rebooting.

Real tragedy when that sort of thing happens...

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 170 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Obviously every piece of evidence against is valuable given the unjust world we live in, but I have to think for a moment about how crazy it would be for anyone not currently convinced of his crimes to see this and then suddenly change their mind

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And to think, we don't even know what could have been covered up or erased during Trump's first term when him and Barr were fully in control of the DOJ/DOC.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right? We are dealing with the crumbs that are left over after two terms of trump that have come out despite total control of all three branches of the government plus the local jurisdictions in which this stuff occurred plus whatever other state actors were involved in the whole operation. It is a miracle anything made it out of that.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Human beings are bayesian. Nobody changes their mind instantly on almost anything. They collect information and compare it against their internal view of the world and update that view accordingly. Confirmation bias makes us interpret data in a way that more likely agrees with what we already think and believe (yes - all of us - you to dear reader).

A slow steady push of data and facts may change some folks over time. But you can't expect to just flick a switch and see all of MAGA change at once. But nobody reports on that one guy who read this and suddenly thinks "yeah - he probably did something".

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

To be fair, there IS information that can make you immediately re-evaluate a person.

To me, it was Musk's "pedo guy" rant back in, what was it, '16, '17? Up until then, I thought he was an okay guy, doing tech things to improve humanity in general, and all the negative stuff being just... him being on the spectrum. It took me the moment he started throwing a very heavy accusation around quite baselessly to realise how shitty he is. A singular moment, a singular event, a singular piece of information made me re-evaluate everything I knew about him and see him for the shitstain he is.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And the Nazi salute. The pedo thing made me think he was just a piece of shit. But that confirmed he was also a fascist.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago

Oh, the fascist confirmation came in 2020 + the takeover of Twitter to "give right wing voices the platform they deserve" or whatever absolute pile of bovine faeces he claimed.

[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 12 points 2 days ago

That was the point he jumped the shark for me. His Twitter takeover, constant placating of the right and efforts to get Trump re-elected had already pushed him from "edgelord memer and shitposter" to "alt-right nutcase", but the salute immediately jumped him to "irredeemably evil monster".

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What we know now about him begging to go to Pedo Island his choice of accusation makes so much more sense than it did at the time. Just goes to show, insults say a lot more about the insulter than the insultee

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

Oh, yeah, definitely felt more like projection even back then...

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair, there IS information that can make you immediately re-evaluate a person.

Oh - for sure, yeah. I suppose I may have been too absolute in my phrasing. It also depends on where you're coming from. "Seems okay" is a lot closer to "is terrible" than "He's gonna save humanity" is.

I had a similar "I think this guy's doing some cool shit" to "waitaminute - why's he calling some guy trying to save kids a pedophile" moment myself.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Also crushed whatever goodwill I had toward Tim Urban as a balanced and neutral intellectual in pursuit of a better world through education and truth. Just another paid hack sucking the musky dick.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The only thing that really matters is what your in-groups believe. Some people consider news sources one of their in-groups, so if they see something in the NYT or The Guardian, they're likely to believe it. But for many people, they only believe their friends and sludge like fox news. You could show them a mathematical proof of something, and if you're out-group, they won't believe you.

For this reason, it's important to talk to our idiot friends and family, because that friendship is the only way to get them back to reality.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

For this reason, it’s important to talk to our idiot friends and family, because that friendship is the only way to get them back to reality.

This is a very important point. Many many people judge the quality of the information they receive based on how much they know and trust the source. Even if they're arguing with you you've still put a thought in their head that may provide enough doubt to change in the future.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

People try and do that but it doesn't work too well

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[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If only we had criminal justice system...

 

Oh wait, -we- do have a system that'll hold us accountable for crimes. If only rich people weren't allowed to do things like rape children or lead an insurrection.

[–] Skv@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Well, sadly, they made the system. Only difference now from before is that thanks to internet that people blatantly get to see it happening.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pedonald was publicly bragging about being a pedophile way before he ran in 2016. Anyone who's says they're still waiting for evidences would call it a hoax if that turd would come to their house and rape kids in front of them.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since everything with him is projection and his lies mean its truth, Im pretty sure Donald Trump murdered someone on 5th Avenue too. Probably someone he raped.

That line was him bragging.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for evidence.

I fully believe he's a pedofile, I just want there to be evidence that's so credible no fucking jury could acquit his ass.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's just not possible, because the DOJ will never touch him. A jury will never have a chance to say anything.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

District courts could still pick up the case I believe?

But yeah, the chances of anything happening are slim as hell

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 17 hours ago

teflon donnie :/

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 day ago

One of the only true things the man has ever said was that bit about being able to shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and walk away without consequences.

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah, I remember Bondi saying she would reward patience with evidence. 

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The same Bondi who gave Epstein and all his co-conspirators blanket immunity if he plead guilty to a minor charge of soliciting prostitution and was sentenced to Florida "daytime jail" where he was allowed to go home nights and weekends?

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Way to go Pamela-Jo!

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Post and Courier article for anyone interested (paywalled):
Three years on Hilton Head leave trail of mysteries in alleged Jeffrey Epstein affair -- March 29, 2026

Archive.world link (I could not find another one that actually had the article content):
https://archive.ph/tsDog

The Substack reporter, Ellie Leonard, who dug it up:
https://substack.com/@redpencilscript/note/c-227060790

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I smell boots on the ground in Iran after this newest Epstein files release.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least that we know of as a country, we do not have people deployed in the country proper as of yet. They're all set up in a dozen little airbases ready to fly and die, but we do not have soldiers actively in Iran.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I mean we've probably got special forces and intelligence sources on the ground. We do in basically every corner of the world. But those aren't overt invasion.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the clarification.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

Wait was there another release recently?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 days ago

The Post and Courier also reported that around 30 pages of documents listed in an internal DOJ trial evidence inventory still remain missing.

I’m sure that was an oversight and they’ll rush to publish the missing pages asap. /s

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Clickbait. Yes, her story had more corroborating points in the sense of where she lived at the time, and who she knew, among other things that in general indicate she was telling the truth.

It has no corroborating points with the actual accusations even though the headline wants you to think that.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They corroborated details about one of her accusations against another man, Jimmy Atkins, who was extorting money from her mom because he had compromising photographs of the daughter who is the accuser. This is all part of her story, about the men who trafficked her when she was a minor. Granted it's not direct evidence of sexual assualt but it still corroborates her story.

"During her interviews, the woman told FBI agents that two men were extorting money from her mother, who wound up going to prison for embezzling money. “Her mother informed her late in the process that they were in trouble, that she had seen photographs...and that she was paying people money,” an FBI agent wrote after an interview, referring to alleged naked photos of the teenage girl."

"The woman claimed Epstein started abusing her and trafficked her to several men when she was aged between 13 and 15. She had met Epstein after he responded to an advertisement for babysitting that her mother, a real estate agent in South Carolina, had given to her clients."

"A report from South Carolina newspaper The Post and Courier released on Sunday has now corroborated key personal details given by the woman about a third man she claims also sexually assaulted her—named Jimmy Atkins. Those details are not directly related to her accusations against Trump, but suggest that she was truthful about other matters she raised with the FBI."

I fully believe that this happened, but holy hell is it unbelievably fucked up that, if I am reading this correctly, this man possessed photographic evidence of the sexual abuse of an underage girl (itself illegal to possess!) and managed to use them to blackmail the victim's mother with the threat to reveal them. The threat of the victim being revealed as a victim was considered blackmail material, while Atkins was absolutely secure in the idea that he could just possess child sexual abuse material and wasn't going to get busted for it.

Fuck this world.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, but the headline also is technically accurate.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

I hope, one day, this overwhelming mountain of evidence actually manages to cause some real-world consequences for the criminals involved. (And leads to some small amount of closure for the victims.)

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