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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Didn't he declare victory weeks ago? I'm confused.

[–] Quexotic 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The excursiom that was aleeady won that was actually a forever war? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

And he absolutely doesn't need help, but it's a shame that the Europeans won't help. And he absolutely doesn't care about the Hormuz, but the Europeans should come in and open it up. Etc. etc.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual

The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Worth noting: Iraq and Iran are very different societies & cultures.

Before colonialism, Iraq was decentralized/tribal for thousands of years before being arbitrarily collected into a single political unit.

Meanwhile Iran was its own empire, with a central head of power for those thousands of years.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

90% chance Trump thinks he's at war with Iraq. Most of those troops couldn't even find Iran on a map last month.

[–] TacoSocks 3 points 2 days ago

Trump is just doing the Neocon wack-a-Muslim in the Middle East. Israel told him where to wack.

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. Can we just band together and do a coup to overthrow Trump and Vance at this point? This is going to be a needless bloodbath on both sides

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, what's the goddamn holdup?

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So maybe a hundredth of what's needed to invade Iran?

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 53 points 2 days ago

More importantly, arriving 4 weeks into active conflict.

Instead of arriving before the bombs started dropping, when they could have been 100x more effective by their mere presence -- especially if combined with a full-spectrum diplomatic and economic push with the Democracies of the world as allies.

Jesus Christ, Trump and his cabinet are fucking hubristic-stupid

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

holy shit the casualties are going to be terrible

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] notsure@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...does anyone else hurt when these things happen?..

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The families of our troops.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I meant this unironically. I physically hurt.

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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

But American will have the element of surprise! /s

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (7 children)

They are going to invade Iran, and play up every single death as a way to blame the Dems and every citizen for not supporting Trump. Now its a real war and "oopsie doopsie no can do elections"

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago
[–] notsure@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...when a corporation is a government, people do not matter...

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Never did. I remember an article shortly back about enlistees feeling like pawns for the current regime, comments beneath unanimously ⁉️♟️🤣

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

They've chosen to be complicit.

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

No better way of getting Trump supporters out of the US. A silver lining for Americans at least

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Americans fight for zionists. Zionist first!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

As per NYT accounting, there is 5000 cannon fodder. The rest are Naval/air/support. Which other than naval staying far enough away, is also cannon fodder.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Setting the stage for nuking Iran, because a 'conventional war' can't be won?
Can we please turn back time some thirty years?

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't think they would bring in troops if they were going to nuke. Bot who knows?

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Just jumping in here before the bags start shipping back to say fuck every single one of these service people. All of them chose to go. All of them chose to serve this lying, fascist government and do the bidding of their corporate patrons. All of them signed up to bomb children. All of them deserve the consequences. Have fun shitting in a bag the rest of your life assholes.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of them are probably 18 years old, poorly educated, and raised on Fox News. They're just pawns that have no idea what's going on.

Congress on the other hand, knows exactly what they're doing, and has no moral qualms.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You’re right, but the 18 year olds are probably educated on As~~smeinkampf~~mongold and that is even worse.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the troops coming home from Vietnam being spit on and called baby killers again.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And that was the high point for many, as they'd end up addicted and living on the streets shortly thereafter.

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[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know how this ends well, we're staring at the Rubicon. Didn't end well for Caesar either.

[–] beansoup@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I fear that it ends with nukes unless trump is stopped.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I've been to concerts with well over twice that many people in the crowd

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

I hope the Europeans know how to cook. These boys are chubby. Or maybe that's the plan to make them a little slimmer?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I've seen this one before, try Paramount+ or something

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

"In the middle east" isn't "on the middle east"... No troops on the gound, just in it.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

just like the simulations

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