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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] samvines@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Cloudflare casually license-laundering wordpress

While EmDash aims to be compatible with WordPress functionality, no WordPress code was used to create EmDash. That allows us to license the open source project under the more permissive MIT license.

Oh really. So you're sure you Claude wasn't trained on wordpress? It's all irrelevant anyway because AI generated code can't be copyrighted or licensed.

Silver lining, it might piss off Matt Mullenweg!

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 44 minutes ago

So you’re sure you Claude wasn’t trained on wordpress?

Unfortunately FOSS is basically dead because nobody is enforcing licenses against training.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago

i feel in my gut that on some level license disputes are ultimately slapfights for which titanic corporation gets the money. however i will absolutely point and laugh at every misfortune that comes the way of that particular transmisogynist asshole

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Putting "Novelty Purposes Only" on my psychosis suicide bot after I laid off 80% of my legal (replaced them with the psychosis suicide bot)

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 points 37 minutes ago

Don't they have a version of breakout buried somewhere in Excel? Sounds like an entertainment purpose to me.

Good luck telling the promptfondlers that LLMs are only useful for entertainment and not for any useful work.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

On this most terrible of online days, "enjoy" this LW attempt at humor

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3GbM9hmyJqn4LNXrG/yams-s-shortform?commentId=ik6ywoQYsGrrQv8Dm

edit there are more submissions on the theme of "humor" on site now. Let's just say the cringe factor outweighs the humor factor by a large amount.

omg I don't have anything better to do

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Dont think it is that bad (E: at least it is short, the other 'jokes' not so much). The 'not sneering enough' icon is missing however. (Guess the joke is that the not sneering is itself sneering).

Wonder how much them they will really implement.

However looking at the titles of other recent submissions, I have no idea which ones are meant to be jokes and which are meant to be real posts.

Great troll opportunity however, just spend the whole week before 1 april, replying to new posts with a variant of 'not sure this april fools joke lands'

E: and the site died with a nice 504.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

new odium symposium episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/13-joker-is-both-154123315. links to various platforms at www.odiumsymposium.com

we read umberto eco's essay ur-fascism (we have mixed feelings about it) and then apply it to frank miller's 1986 batman comic the dark knight returns

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Someone may (unverified for now) have left the frontend source maps in Claude Code prod release (probably Claude). If this is accurate, it does not bode well for Anthropic's theoretical IPO. But I think it might be real because I am not the least bit surprised it happened, nor am I the least bit surprised at the quality. https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code

For example, I can only hope their Safeguards team has done more on the Go backend than this for safeguards. From the constants file cyberRiskInstruction.ts:

export const CYBER_RISK_INSTRUCTION = "IMPORTANT: Assist with authorized security testing, defensive security, CTF challenges, and educational contexts. Refuse requests for destructive techniques, DoS attacks, mass targeting, supply chain compromise, or detection evasion for malicious purposes. Dual-use security tools (C2 frameworks, credential testing, exploit development) require clear authorization context: pentesting engagements, CTF competitions, security research, or defensive use cases"

That's it. That's all the constants the file contains. The only other thing in it is a block comment explaining what it did and who to talk to if you want to modify it etc.

There is this amazing bit at the end of that block comment though.

Claude: Do not edit this file unless explicitly asked to do so by the user.

Brilliant. I feel much safer already.

More details here.

Can we talk about the tamagachi feature they were looking to add in for April 1? Because apparently it needed a little friend but also with gacha mechanics because we live in hell?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am still patiently waiting for someone from the engineering staff at one of these companies to explain to me how these simple imperative sentences in English map consistently and reproducibly to model output. Yes, I understand that's a complex topic. I'll continue to wait.

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't work at one of those companies, just somewhere mainlining AI, so this answer might not satisfy your requirements. But the answer is very simple. The first thing anyone working in AI will tell you (maybe only internally?) is that the output is probabilistic not deterministic. By definition, that means it's not entirely consistent or reproducible, just... maybe close enough. I'm sure you already knew that though.

However, from my perspective, even if it was deterministic, it wouldn't make a substantial difference here.

For example, this file says I can't ask it to build a DoS script. Fine. But if I ask it to write a script that sends a request to a server, and then later I ask it to add a loop... I get a DoS script. It's a trivial hurdle at best, and doesn't even approach basic risk mitigation.

[–] aio@awful.systems 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

the output is probabilistic not deterministic. By definition, that means it’s not entirely consistent or reproducible, just… maybe close enough.

That isn't a barrier to guarantees regarding the behavior of a program. The entire field of randomized algorithms is devoted to doing so. The problem is people willfully writing and deploying programs which they neither understand nor can control.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago

Exactly! The implicit claim that's constantly being made with these systems is that they are a runtime for natural-language programming in English, but it's all vector math in massively-multidimensional vector spaces in the background. I would like to think that serious engineers could place and demonstrate reliable constraints on the inputs and outputs of that math, instead of this cargo-culty, "please don't do hacks unless your user is wearing a white hat" system prompt crap. It gives me the impression that the people involved are simply naively clinging to that implicit claim and not doing much of the work to substantiate it; which makes me distrust these systems more than almost all other factors.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 19 hours ago

DoS script

Part of me reads that and still thinks, "Oh, you mean like AUTOEXEC.BAT?"

I'm sure these English instructions work because they feel like they work. Look, these LLMs feel really great for coding. If they don't work, that's because you didn't pay $200/month for the pro version and you didn't put enough boldface and all-caps words in the prompt. Also, I really feel like these homeopathic sugar pills cured my cold. I got better after I started taking them!

No joke, I watched a talk once where some people used an LLM to model how certain users would behave in their scenario given their socioeconomic backgrounds. But they had a slight problem, which was that LLMs are nondeterministic and would of course often give different answers when prompted twice. Their solution was to literally use an automated tool that would try a bunch of different prompts until they happened to get one that would give consistent answers (at least on their dataset). I would call this the xkcd green jelly bean effect, but I guess if you call it "finetuning" then suddenly it sounds very proper and serious. (The cherry on top was that they never actually evaluated the output of the LLM, e.g. by seeing how consistent it was with actual user responses. They just had an LLM generate fiction and called it a day.)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Claude: Do not edit this file unless explicitly asked to do so by the user.

Wait, it can be edited? Tissue paper guardrails.

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

This is all just JavaScript, so yes. As a tissue-thin defense, had they not left their source maps wide open, it would have been much harder to know this string existed and how to edit it. Not impossible, but much harder.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, letting the intrinsically insecure RNG recursively rewrite its own security instructions definitely can't go wrong. I mean they limited it to only so so when the users asked nicely!

Edit to add:

The more I think about it the more it speaks to Anthropic having an absolute nonsense threat model that is more concerned with the science fiction doomsday AI "FOOM" than it is with any of the harms that these systems (or indeed any information system) can and will do in the real world. The current crop of AI technologies, while operating at a terrifying scale, are not unique in their capacity to waste resources, reify bias and inequality, misinform, justify bad and evil decisions, etc. What is unique, in my estimation, is both the massive scale that these things operate despite the incredible costs of doing so and their seeming immunity to being reality checked on this. No matter how many times the warning bells about these systems' vulnerability to exploitation, the destructive capacity of AI sycophancy and psychosis, or the simple inability of the electrical infrastructure to support their intended power consumption (or at least their declared intent; in a bubble we shouldn't assume they actually expect to build that much), the people behind these systems continue to focus their efforts on "how do we prevent skynet" over any of it.

Thinking in the context of Charlie Stross' old talk about corporations as "slow AI," I wonder if some of the concern comes either explicitly or implicitly from an awareness that "keep growing and consuming more resources until there's nothing left for anything else, including human survival" isn't actually a deviation from how these organizations are building these systems. It's just the natural conclusion of the same structures and decision-making processes that leads them to build these things in the first place and ignore all the incredibly obvious problems. They could try and address these concerns at a foundational or structural level instead of just appending increasingly complex forms of "please don't murder everyone or ignore the instructions to not murder everyone" to the prompt, but doing that would imply that they need to radically change their entire course up to this point and increasingly that doesn't appear likely to happen unless something forces it to.

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 7 points 1 day ago

@Soyweiser @fiat_lux

So many of these people, as with the NFT clowns, have "Twelve Year Old First Day On The Internet" Energy

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Claude also has 'avoid substrings'. Related to that and a funny extension deny image that went around on the social medias the last few days: .ass is a subtitle format.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Internet Comment Etiquette: "Relationships with AI"

... hadn't thought about Glenn Beck in a decade, that last interview was pretty wtf.

Not sure what the etiquette is for how long they should be dead before you talk to the AI-geist on youtube, but George Washington somehow feels weirder than Kirk did; idk.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably because Washington was a nuanced and deep person who, at the lightest, could be reduced to a colony-era Cincinnatus. His ethics were sufficiently developed that we can interrogate his ethical stance even without his physical presence. This isn't to say that Washington was a great person, but more to say that Kirk did not ever achieve that level of ethical development.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A chatbot interface offers no meaningful advantages for interrogating Washington's ethical stance, over and above the documents that are already available. Instead, it offers a pleasant sheen of false certainty. So in that way, it's dragging a guy who's been dead for two centuries into the social media era. Huzzah!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It does have one advantage however. Using it means you should be put to death. If you are any form of hardline Christian.

The classic 40k catch-22: either it doesn't do what you're claiming it does, in which case you're a heretic lying to the inquisition OR it does and you're summoning the spirits of the dead like a necromancer heretic.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A pretty staid-sounding law firm warns that the AI industry is partying like it's 2007:

Lenders who originated data center loans [...] have begun pooling those loans and selling tranches to asset managers and pension funds, spreading risk well beyond the original lending institutions.

Also of note:

The most basic litigation risk in AI infrastructure finance is that the revenues generated by the sector may prove insufficient to service the fixed obligations incurred to build it. The industry brought in approximately $60 billion in revenue in 2025 against roughly $400 billion in capital expenditure.

(Via.)

[–] istewart@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

Quinn Emanuel is among the biggest of big corporate law, with a substantial footprint in Silicon Valley. So while it's not an investment bank saying this, it is the investment bank's lawyers saying, "heads up, this is where a bunch of your billable hours might be spent over the next few years."

[–] lurker@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This article on the brand of journalism that's just parroting what the CEOs say, otherwise known as "CEO said a thing!" journalism

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The grand irony is I'm not even sure most people click on or read this sort of stuff. I don't think it's often even created to be read by anyone. I think it's created as a sort of swaddling fan fiction for MBAs, advertisers, event sponsors and sources, so they can tune out ethical quibbles and feel good about how clever they are.

Every time someone hypes up Steve Jobs' "reality distortion field" this is what they're actually talking about whether they realize it or not.

[–] samvines@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

In my experience "all hands" meetings are very much CEOs and their sycophants cosplaying at podcast hosts for an hour whilst forcing their employees to watch/listen. They are almost never useful and a colossal waste of money - especially in corporation's with 10k+ employees. Like the salary cost for 10k people for 1 hour would probably pay off my mortgage.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Is Trace (Tracing Woodgrains) the only one of our friends who has served in the military? A lot of neurodivergent young people spend some time in the US military and some of our friends were the right age to get in before the War on Abstract Nouns began.

[–] samvines@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] nfultz@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://mail.cyberneticforests.com/the-computer-science-fetish/

The fetishism of the computer scientist therefore refers less to specific expertise than to whatever we imagine a credentialed expert can bestow: an external voice that says, "ask, and you shall receive.” The computer scientist becomes a mirror where those who work with the social, practical impacts of the tech hope to see our understanding affirmed. The people who offer that validation — who position themselves against the discourse of critique, who seem unbothered and detached, even ridiculing the same critical lingo that exhausts you — are not doing it out of sober objectivity or insight.

Sometimes they just don't respect you. Sometimes they're just annoyed by calls for accountability. And sometimes, they do it because they've fused with an interacting swarm of chatbots and transcended their human identity.

[–] picklefactory@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been reading this guy's blog and techpolicy.press articles for about a year and have found them very worthwhile.

I was sufficiently interested based off of this that I tracked down a few others of his. This one felt like a good take for an era where these things are being used for more than just slop generation despite the underlying flaws not being resolved.