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Justice Brett Kavanaugh sounded like a fired-up prosecutor last year as he shot off a withering series of nuts-and-bolts questions about how President Donald Trump would carry out his plan to rewrite of the way birthright citizenship has been understood in the United States for more than a century.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 20 points 3 days ago

We NEED to ~~Protect Babies!~~ Do EVERYTHING we can to FUCK Babies! All hail JEFFREY EPSTEIN and his Friends!

-Pro Life Republicans!

[–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Trump has insisted the executive order is aimed at combatting “birth tourism,” immigrants who come to the United States briefly for the purpose of having a child.

This assumes that birth tourism—if it even exists in any non-trivial amount of babies—is a problem. Why would it be a problem? I don't get it.

The administration is always bitching about not enough babies... Make up your damned mind!

...or perhaps be more explicit about your true intentions?

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Birth tourism is absolutely a thing, especially for affluent people of 2nd and 3rd world countries, at least in my experience.

I've met and known a lot, and I mean countless, wealthy people from Mexico and South America, whose parents come here to give birth, returned home to raise their kids, and then the kids move back to the states for college.

I'm not saying that's bad, or good, I'm just saying it's real.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

I just looked up the actual numbers and the highest estimate I could find was that there could be about 70,000 babies born to parents on temporary visas each year (Center for Immigration Studies). Other figures suggested around 10,000 at most but I picked the biggest one to make a point:

It doesn't fucking matter.

70,000 births a year in a nation that has 3.5 million births/year is nothing. That's 2% so I'm going to reiterate that nobody should care. It's a stupidly small figure that is of zero consequence.

The only negative connotation one could derive from this figure is founded in racism.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you saying it attracts more of the wealthy, intelligent and motivated people to this country? Horrors!

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's not how I would describe the nepo babies and trust fund kids of Mexico and South America.

But I guess you're free to feel differently.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Perhaps they say that now, and let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they mean it (for now). I am VERY confident this would be abused later by the next people in charge.

...but of course in reality it's much more likely this is a smokescreen or intentional first step towards what they really want which is a theocratic white ethnostate.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It being a "problem" isn't the question. It's whether or not birthright citizenship goes against the Constitution and this exact question was already answered in the last Century.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

No no. I'm absolutely certain that the Trump administration considers birthright citizenship to be a problem—when it's non-white babies that are getting citizenship.

They need to stop beating around the bush and just say that.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Only if they felt bound by consistency and precedence, which they have repeatedly shown they do not.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Wouldn't be Trump's Supreme Court if it didn't induce as much chaos as Dear Leader™.