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i tried it briefly for a couple months, got embarrassed at myself for my brief moment of insanity that I had tried it and stopped.
observing all this is beyond my ability to any longer have sympathy for the human race as a whole . Instead of banning cars, starbucks and fast food etal we design a drug to sell to you.
Like many of the endless examples of human stupidity, it seemingly makes lots of sense at an individual level and is completely fucking insane at a societal level.
If you look at photos and footage from like 50 years ago, everyone was way thinner. I don't believe we've just got greedier. I don't believe people were necessarily choosing healthier options. The food has changed and is practically poisonous. People don't want to be this way and I don't think it's fair to blame them directly.
Here comes a gentle reminder: Ozempic is primarily meant as a medicine for type 2 diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. It has plenty of side effects, does not lead to long-term weight loss and may harm you in the long run. It may be helpful, but it shouldn't be taken uncontrollably.
Consult your physician to determine if it's the best way forward.
I've been on it for 2 years for weight loss/maintenance and it's life-changing & I wish this existed 30 years ago, my entire life & self-esteem would've made me a completely different person so much more confident & goal-achieving
Lost my best friend of 20 years and I blame this drug. I am convinced rapid weight loss when you've been fat for 35 years is going to be a huge change to the brain as well. Dude isn't the same person anymore
People don't care. They just want to lose weight with zero effort.
Already have had friends of friends and family who have been on it, lost 30-40lbs, and went off it, and gained it all right back. It's basically the yo-yo dieting in prescription form.
Most of my friends and family are skinny and healthy and have never gained much weight beyond temporary gains... how? Diet and Exercise. But I def regular encounter that basically think diet and exercise can't possibly be the solution to their weight issues... while they suck down 40oz sugar coffees everyday and are winded by walking .5km
What would you say to someone who weighed about 28.5 stone, suffers with chronic lower back pain that limits movement, inflammation causing limited range of motion caused by the excessive weight, knee problems which limit ability to climb stairs and do things like squats or stand from kneeling or from the floor who eats uncontrollably to get a dopemine fix because they cant get adhd medication because of NHS wait times and lack of in person clinics, which are needed due to hypertension and irregularities on ana ECG and doesnt self medicate with weed anymore due to legality l, access and health issues.
Can't exercise effectively due to weight, can't lose weight to get help with excessive eating due to inability to exercise effectively. Catch 22. I am fucked.
Do i not qualify as having a legitimate reason to take weightloss medication to get me into a place where i can move properly. My quality of life is shit and i have done everything to try to fix it. I have an exercise bike but cant use it for long due to pain in my knees and shins, started swimming to ease the load on my knees but couldnt get any room in my local pool to exercise due to lane swimmers, all the dedicated classes take place whilst i am in work or too close to my finishing times. I need to travel 40 minutes to a pool that does a class at the right time for me. Have kids and house to help with. I took a weightloss course with NHS but lost nothing because it was a pile of crap course that didnt adress the issues people have with weight and only told us all what we already knew and offered a single 40 minute class a week doing low impact exercises in 2 minute bursts.
I started taking mounjaro which i pay out of my arse for, and i have lost 2 stone so far. On track to lose even more. Starting to exercise again. Feel better overall. Cardio is better, can walk further than 30 metres without needing to sit down. Back pain is still here but hopefully will ease off.
Ive never been this big in my life, always a bit chunky (like 14-16 stone in my teens to early 30s) stopped smoking and piled it on over a year.
Its not so black and white.
I'd question your mental health.
Ok so putting aside the fact that i talked about having ADHD and it being a big contributor to my eating habits. I list a bunch of physical health problems and how they dorectly impact my ability to lose weight and you question my mental health?
I think its clear that in terms of mental health, you are the one with problems. You are narrow minded, you have a bit of a god complex based on your other comments in this thread, you are arrogant and seemingly ignorant to all of it. What kind of person does it take to give a bad opinion, have that opinion challenged with genuinely good points but still turn around and "no you" it back to me?
The only thing your comment fails to address is everything i said. Its clearly unintelligent, backing down, goalpost moving trash.
you do realize he mentions ADHD? i'm sure you don't mean to but your comment implies the mentally ill can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Then treat it.
I am more than familiar with people like him. I have had relationships with people who made endless excuses, and refused to manage their conditions, and then of course, told me it was my fault. As if I was supposed to magically cure them of all their mental and physical issues... that they actively embraced and enhanced by poor habits and recreational drug use.
When it comes to mental and physical health, yes you do have to pull yourself up. Nobody can do it for you. Nobody can fix my health problems for me. It's my responsibility to manage them. Or I suppose I could just give up, and be a twat about it and incessantly whine to whomever will listen to my self-imposed misery. And go around taking random internet comments as personal attacks on myself... lol
Read my post properly and you might see why treating it is a problem.
You need to stop ignoring the bits that counter your argument because it is making you look ignorant.
And i can't get over that whole point you are trying to make about people (me in this case) making it all about themselves when you are doing exactly that. You are imposing your narrowminded and ignorant view poi t on everyone else. Hilariously, no one agrees. You are on your own on this one.
Please do us all a favour. Read and critically analyse this comment thread. Be self critical, look at it from a view point that is not your own. And understand that my offering a personal anecdote, in contrary to your view is not "an attack" it is not me taking your nonsense as a personal attack on me. It is just me trying to introduce some nuance. Something you may not know.
Isnt the point of these message boards to have discussions with real people from around the world? Are you really on a social media platform pretending you don't care what other people think?
Wild that mate.....
setting aside that not all kinds of adhd are treatable, if you read his post again, you'll see the current external obstacle to his treatment.
I think they meant it.
Individual differences matter.
Some people are eating like a truck and can barely be called active, yet remain slim.
Some others put a much greater effort into keeping themselves in shape, stick to a diet, exercise a lot, and still don't have it.
There are plenty of genuine issues that can make losing weight problematic. But taking random drugs without prescription like there's no tomorrow is not going to help.
We're not able to regulate the food and automobile industry so we're going to drug everyone forever so that we don't end up like the Pixar spaceships. In 20 years we'll discover the side effects and everyone will be shocked.
Infinite money glitch: sell ammo and medkits
Ok so how can I get generic ozempic from India, because here in the US there probably won't be a generic until at least 2032 due to how our patent laws work.
i am guessing ask someone to bring it over (maybe courier also works).
Yes, my understanding is that it's legal in the US to purchase prescription-only drugs from overseas as long as they're only for personal use. It's kind of a grey area but as long as they're not scheduled substances, I and multiple people I know have saved a lot of money by buying prescription drugs from Europe and shipping them here (we have such a wonderfully broken system here, don't we?)
If you go to border towns in Mexico like Tijuana they have pharmacies on every corner like Starbucks where you can buy medications.
From the reports that i have read (am indian), 20+ generics are expected, within roughly 2 months or so, with previous price being something along 10k INR (roughly 100USD) a month to about 3-4k INR (30-40 USD) a month. Drugs have always been kinda cheap here (as an example, a simple paracetamol (tylenol) tablet costs 1 INR (~1cent US)), so it is still expensive (for vast majority, it is more than 2-3 days of work), but much better. hope people use this cautiously though with reasonable expectations.
Sounds to me like the US is going to continue to be a country of morbidly obese poor people in a much skinnier world.