I don't trust this administration to enforce this fairly or evenly at all. And even then, they shouldn't be able to discriminate for any fucking reason. They are a payment processor! It's like your utility company saying what you can and can't use the electricity you pay for... for.
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I really hope some non-US controlled credit card issuers and processors start to exist soon.
The entire US financial system seems like such a risk to participate in these days.
I know it is not a payment processor but I think this needs more attention to what it got. The biggest smart card manufacturer was French. If they died (the company still exists but is a shadow of what it was), you'd have to thanks the NSA for it.
The English Wikipedia is lacking but you'll find more details here : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemplus
The USA is fighting dirty to keep its position overall and we are not responding at all.
Not globally. Right now and for foreseeable future only crypto supports world wide. There are initiatives for EU wide payment processing but it won't work outside
Carte Bleue should expand beyond France.
As a Canadian, I would be fine with an EU based system that works globally.
Can I finally buy my porn games without some third party fucking over the developers?
No they ok with that de-platforming
They want to blanket ban porn after all. That's why the announcement only mentions being debanked for being a conservative and specifically calls out legal transactions.
Only if you register church of porn games where porn games would be worshiped.
You may be on to something
Organizing a religion that emphasizes freedom and tries to incorporate all our likes or dislikes into it is one test of religious freedom I've always wanted to make.
After all if you can globally mutilate children and harass every single other group in existence for religious purposes surely we can be allowed total media freedom, subsidies for our cultural high quality food and preferred parking for our subsidized luxury cars for our starter sacred privileges in society?
The Satanic Temple is close enough.
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If stores like Itch.io deployed crypto payments few years ago and built solid user base on it, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Lol no
Every accusation is a confession, tjere are seemingly no exceptions.
Credit card companies are just more middle-men in a whole sea of them. trump would rather you borrow from his "bankers". Easy-credit but the vig will kill you.
didn't they debank the ICC ? and Francesca Albenese for her political views ?
Yes, they are projecting.
This is interesting.
Trump sued JPMorgan Chase and its CEO, Jamie Dimon, in January for $5 billion over what he alleged was the bank’s improper closure of his accounts in 2021 for political reasons. The bank is fighting the claims. The Trump Organization, led by the president’s sons, also sued Capital One last year over similar debanking allegations, and a federal judge last week dismissed that lawsuit, but gave the plaintiffs time to refile.
Following that link:
Trump sued JPMorgan and Dimon last month, seeking at least $5 billion in damages. He claims the alleged debanking came after Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, shortly before the end of the president’s first term.
So that's what this is about.
Wait wait wait, but trump (and magats) said everyone at the US 2020 insurrection that the only people there were Fed agent provocateurs and paid Antifa™™ actors.
Well and then Trump pardoned them but that was just forgotten about and definitely unrelated.
Trump has been debanked since the late 90s by almost all US banks, because when you bankrupt two casinos and frequently spend time with mobsters they considered loans to you "high risk" for some reason.
He's been getting loans via Europe (mostly Deutschbank.. which is also Putin's bank of choice), and Russia, for 30 years.
That is, until he won the lottery by convincing the stupidest people alive to vote him into the highest seat of power.
So now it's payback time against all the banks he thinks wronged him.
So I guess blocking payments to porn sites or whatever they were doing before is supposed to stop. Right? Right?
The right is mostly aligning with that, unless you're talking about those young alt-righters, who are following a suggestion found on a pro-lolicon forum religiously.
Ah but its okay to disenfranchise those whose politics dont fit the federal narrative innit
yeah this isn't suspicious at all.
And certainly wouldn't be selectively enforced anyway. This is 100% "rules for thee not for me" shit.
Like if they get debanked for "religious" or "political" reasons (esp. when they are the ones politicizing literally everything), it's a crime.
Things that they consider political but sensible people consider "human rights", tho? They sleep.
🤦...here we go again
Somebody's about to do something fucking horrific again.
Process the fucking payments, payment processors.
This seems like a good thing at first and that makes me extra wary.
Anarchist/Environmentalists get debanked: I sleep.
Epstein-club child-rapist billionaires get the slightest inconvenience: Real Shit.
That is for conservatives only though. The judges on the ICC who have been debanked for ruling against Netanyahu can pound sand.
Has this actually happened, or just playing the victim again?
The linked article has more info: https://www.bankingdive.com/news/occ-debanking-report-jpmorgan-bofa-citi-wells-fargo-pnc-td-bmo-capital-one-trump-gould/807685/
The OCC expressed concern that, between 2020 and 2025, the banks restricted access or required “escalated reviews and approvals before providing … access” to certain customers with connections to oil and gas, coal, firearms, private prisons, tobacco, payday lending, adult entertainment, digital assets or political action committees and political parties.
It’s that last part that, presumably, spurred President Donald Trump in January to accuse Bank of America – while its CEO was on stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland – of debanking conservatives.
Nobody is being "debanked" except Trump, and it's because his accounts were tied to criminal activity, not politics.
Stop committing crime, and you can put the money in a bank.
Meanwhile, MAGA is talking about making it illegal for undocumented people to have bank accounts. So who is actually denying banking privileges based on politics?
Nazis say that you are required to let Nazis be your customers. Also that you don't have to serve people you don't want to when it fits their narrative.