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Religion can be fine. It is and always has been the idiots who ruin shit, just like with everything. I have churches around me that help the community, are open to all sorts of people. So the leader of one of the largest churches finally doing what he can to denounce nonsense is a step in the right direction for sure.

Unfortunately, the idiots will most certainly be heard.

Sad-funny part is that it was in the name of "bringing the armageddon" alongside money.

There was decades of propoganda calling all forms of self-defense "just religious extremism" and we find out it was mostly projection.

The leaders don't care but a lot of the people who voted for them allegedly do.

These guys may not care about God, but they sure do invoke him a lot. Hegseth and other commanders are catching a LOT of complaints from officers and troops about the constant barrage of religious rhetoric coming from the top. And Israel and Iran are doing everything they're doing in the name of the same God as us.

So it's good that Pope Leo is speaking out directly against those hypocrites. I don't believe in any of that hogwash, but Pope Leo has a lot more credibility as a man of God than any of those other psychopaths.

The Israelites were YAHWEH’s special people, so when they are oppressed it’s bad, but they are obligated to genocide anyone that stands in their way. Even babies and animals.

This should sound familiar even you have never read a line of a Bible or Torah.

No no no. That was the Old Testament which doesn't count anymore.

The New Testament is the one that we care about (except we've we don't)

If those Evangicals could read they'd be very upset.

Kind of yeah, one of the reasons for the pope existing. That's why they keep doing the whole voting thing

It does, and will continue to do so.

The bishops responsible for ejecting the Pope are likely aware of this, and is by in large why Leo was chosen. The church really doesn't get to set the cultural trend as much as nudge it in a particular direction. It's the bumpers in a bowling alley, not the ball.

People are going to find something they don't like,then seek justification for not liking it.

Two dudes fuckin, ew! I would never do that that's so gross. Oh look, here's this passage in this book I like saying that's actually evil! Hell yeah!

When it looks like 'Christians' cherry pick passages to support whatever nonsense they're on about, that's because they are, always have done so and always will. Because the nonsense was always more important to them than the Bible. It just so happens that the Bible says a lot of shit that's very easy to take out of context to support whatever nonsense you want.

The Pope is reading the room, and providing justification. Or rather, the Cardinals elected a Pope that aligns with the current climate and he's just saying whatever ~~God tells him to~~ comes to mind. He might swing a few people but if he pushes too hard what he'll just alienate some Catholics and they might break off and do their own thing, again.

Yes, it does.

As I recall, only the first Crusade was endorsed by a Pope. And no, the teachings don't change, though the way things are phrased varies based on culture.

Being an American and a good person is contradictory, what with the numerous genocides throughout her history and all, that being one of them.

I get what you're saying but it's hard to lay blame on a modern person for some shit a related group of people did 150 years ago. That's like saying it's impossible to be Irish and a good Catholic, what with the child slavery prisons, which are far more recent. Or that is impossible to be a Muslim and a good person, what with the things other Muslims have done in the name of God.

You're responsible for you. Other people are responsible for themselves. Unless you happen to believe that every person is responsible for the sins of his father. Which, weirdly enough the Catholic Church does, but didn't happen to be involved in that particular genocide.

Also, counterpoint, Mr Rogers. American, Christian, good person. Or Jimmy Carter.

In a manner of speaking, this is correct. A Christian's home is in Heaven, they simply travel here as immigrants.

That's just original sin talk. Also, Leo is American. For an American to be a good Christian takes extra work, "it's not my fault but it is my responsibility" and whatnot, but I've met Americans who are good Christians, and yeah they're involved in attempting to right the wrongs that can be righted here

I think he knows being from the US himself...

The more entrenched conservative US christians would undoubtedly dismiss the pope's message, but those who are less affiliated might give it some thought.

Or God simply doesn't exist and we as a species need to deal with our own problems