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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Punisher is supposed to represent the absolute failure of the system.

Cops and military are supposed to be the system.

When they wear The Punisher's colours, they are literally admitting that they are starting from a failure state.

Which I find ridiculous.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whats funny is people often wear the punisher logo with the thin blue line colors

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

at that point they might as well be wearing swasticas.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter if they are the Punisher - the Punisher is a murderous sack of shit who no one should idolize.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eh, if the punisher was real I think he would be killing the same people that wear his symbol and that would be beneficial.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 28 points 3 days ago

This narrative has already been addressed in both the comics, and last Daredevil season.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think the cons of being okay with murderous vigilantism far outweigh whatever good the vigilante is trying to accomplish.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we should roll over and die and not inconvenience the centrists.

False dichotomy.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I disagree. Two words:

Luigi Mangioni

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sure, it's all well and good when the vigilante kills someone you want dead. But we're not talking about whether any particular act of vigilantism is of benefit to society, we're talking about the kind of society you'd wind up with if such vigilantism were considered okay. Because a whole lot more people would be dying, and not all of them would be the people you want dead.

Most of them probably wouldn’t be because the people willing to employ such measures -typically- aren’t the sort of people decent people would agree with on most matters of who deserves what.

[–] redsand 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, that's not your reality, yours is way worse

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I 100% agree with your first sentence. That is exactly the reason why I gave the answer of Luigi Mangioni.

Sure, it's all well and good when the vigilante kills someone you want dead.

That's what I want though. I would rather those who hold a monopoly of violence to go after people I want to be gone after. However, those who hold the monopoly of violence go after people they deem appropriate. If those who hold the monopoly of violence go after people I want I am against vigilantism but if they don't I will support any act of vigilantism that goes after people I want but not acts of vigilantism that don't.

Luigi Mangioni showed me an instance where I supported the ends (retribution against health insurance CEOs) over means (proper monopoly of violence). If you only follow means rather than ends exclusive than those who control the means and choose which means you follow will choose the ends you will arrive at. Why would I give away the ends prematurely and have someone else define it, probably for their own benefit?

[–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Also the actor is apparently a Zionist

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

They are unironically, the people The Punisher went after.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

People fail to realize the punisher is a bad guy who kills based on his judgement and completely outside the law. When i see cops sport the skull, it just kills me.

[–] redsand 9 points 2 days ago

Much like V, Punisher has a goal he intends to die achieving. Kill the murders responsible for their torment. None of these panzies are willing to die or understand the skull is an admission, Frank does not belong in the world he wants to create.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

I hope they double down on this in the new daredevil season

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago