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same reason you can have anal sex and still be a virgin!

As in all theological questions, it really requires faith.

If you have faith then you don't need to worry about the details.

If you don't have faith then none of it makes any sense.

God is also supposedly an all-knowing being, while at the same time excuses his shitty decisions and faulty creations with not being responsible for men's actions and decisions, and also free will is a thing.

Pick a lane. Either god is all-knowing and knows what every single human being who ever lived/lives/will live did/will do in their lifetimes and free will is an illusion, or he's not an all-knowing being.

Or... hear me out on this... He's not real! Crazy, I know.

I mean the Judeo-Christian god is also omniscient so he did so knowing they wouldn't, meaning them eating the apple was the point in the first place. Otherwise he just wouldn't have created the tree.

PS: I'm Muslim and this story is a bit different in Islam but I'm pretty sure I got it right.

And if Yahweh is omniscient, he knew they would eat it, so he put the situation together so that they could be "punished",

Yahweh is a sadist.

Because that god is a crazy tyrant that had to prove he had total control over his creations (despite giving them free will), and threw a tantrum like a child when they disobeyed. And we have another example of his childish tantrums when he flooded the world because his toys weren't playing the way he wanted.

It explains a lot of why Christianity is so fucked up

Christianity is only one of the many interpretations of reality. Not reality itself. Other doctrines like gnosticism, hinduism, etc... Will give you another view.

And while we're at it, wouldn't the Reality Stone trump all the others because reality is all there is and contains everything the other stones represent?

Do you want snakes with legs? Because this is how you get snakes with legs.

Just some light tomfoolery.

Original scapegoat

The story was adulterated, & that is visible in the text of that part of the bible, there was no apple.

"women ate of the fruit of the knowledge of Good & Evil ( MORAL UNDERSTANDING ), & shared that with men".

Yes, mothering enforces more moral-understanding than does male-ego-persuits, traditional or modern.

As women have noticed, & evidence absolutely does back it, women bring life into the world, & men persue killing, consistently more than women do.

( the insecurity displayed by the "god" of that story is idiotic, & the blunt fact that help has been provided to humankind, repeatedly, since then, falsifies the message in that part of their bible that "god" wants us kept down, as pets: it investes in our evolving, & there's even a book specifically on that, though from an Abrahamic-religion perspective, called "The Evolution of God", which .. isn't written by a believer, but comes to the conclusion that someone has been cultivating evolution, consistently, among the peoples of that "god". )

The "grace" left-behind by ones who experience moral-anxiety is the "grace" of being mere-animals, who don't have moral-anxieties.

This is an absolutely-factual metaphor/parable about the mere-animal ancestors of humankind vs the moral-anxiety/moral-difficulties condition of our "generation".

Also, there's another corroboration, but much more recent..

there's a yt vid on how Gobekli Tepe somehow was a metropolis without agriculture: Natural Abundance was sufficient for them to do that, & they didn't break their ecology, the way we do..

But you've still got the "grace"/"non-grace" difference between the people who just lived in natural-abundance & didn't break their ecology vs our-generation..

Oh, & as far as I can tell, the Abrahamic-religion authorities are looking totally at the wrong frame-of-reference, in trying to discern where the "Garden of Eden" was: it means Earth, not some limited-locale of it.

Earth was pristine, lush, drenchingly-alive ( I've read that the cod were sooo thick in off the Atlantic coast of Canada, that the fishermen said you could walk from ship to ship .. exageration, certainly, but .. the fish were, on average, 80y old, back then, & huge. Nowadays, they're .. a few years old, 8yo was what I'd read last century, & then we broke the coral-forests they breed in, & the cod-fishery collapsed, & never recovered. We're incompetent at preserving natural-wealth, & we do it in ALL contexts, all fisheries, all forests, .. where's all the BEST farmland on Earth? under concrete, because we converted it all to cities, since that was where the people were.

Idiocy ).

We're destroying the Garden of Eden, globally.

No matter: The Great Filter, our species-puberty, will force-exterminate our race, if we won't grow-up quick enough, completely enough.

Natural Selection, but at planet-scale.

& finally, free-will requires ability-to-choose-wrong.

Puppets aren't what we are.

( it is continuums/souls which are ChildrenOfG-D/CellsOfG-D, it isn't our-lives/incarnations: those are children-of-souls, so grandchildren-of-G-D )

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The Jewish interpretation is that Eve 'knew' God wanted Adam to the eat the apple, so she tempted him with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxZ7RMHt4g

Because you can say anything you want about a god that doesn't actually exist. He could cure cancer, turn you inside out, and show you the inside of a black hole. Just pray and interpret silence as a "no" but that doesn't mean he couldn't if he felt like it.

Ah the good old epicurean paradox :3. The christian god can't be all loving, all knowing, all powerful, and all present all at once, otherwise the whole religion makes no sense. If you solve that one you may become the new messiah, but otherwise the answer is "no reason" because none of it makes sense

God is a kind of a lazy bitch

It's allegory and shouldn't be taken literally. At all. One possible interpretation is that eating the apple symbolises the birth of empathy or understanding of other consciousness, thereby giving humans both the ability to be kind and to be cruel.

Adding on to this, god asking them not to eat it was the basic human understanding of god's cosmic warning of the responsibility and consequences of doing so. The lesson is that we can't trust humans to make the right choice with something so profound, hence now we have nukes. And monkeys on the firing buttons.