If they're sentient? Yep.
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Would they feel any pain or suffering if you shut the simulation down? If not, which seems like the intuitive answer, then it is ethical.
Killing people in a traditional sense is unethical because you inevitably subject them to suffering agony. Also, the killed one won't be your only victim, as any people related to them would be subjected to psychological trauma.
Whether plugging off simulated consciousnesses is moral is another question tho.
Let's see the people split into pro-simlife and pro-simchoice camps.
Even my Arduino had intelligence, but I switched off the power.
I apply ethics only to those who I consider equal or better. So the full answer from my standpoint would be: "Yes, it would be unethical, but this fact won't stop me from ending the simulation if I don't need it anymore."
How do you get to the point where you consider someone to be inferior to you?
Being stupider is enough to be considered inferior. It is more complicated, but overall intelligence is the main criteria.
Would killing babies or elderly people be okay then? They can both be much more ignorant than the average person.
No, it wouldn't. I leave it to you to figure out why.
I mean they are "stupider", at least the babies. Wouldn't that be enough to be considered inferior in your book?
Wouldn’t that be enough to be considered inferior in your book?
It is always useful to take into the account a "credit of trust" toward babies and aknowledge of previous achievements if we talk about elders. You see, most of local moralists are American racists, so whatever they hear they apply to their sick racist worldview. So whatever they hear they try to apply to divide HUMANS. I wasn't talk about humans. Most humans (except clinically ill) have +- the comparable level of intellect, so I consider them +- equal to me.
You were referring to non-human animals then?
Wasn't that obvious from the thread's theme?
This is a genuine question, not an insult: do you have any kind of impairment when it comes to conversations and exchanging thoughts?
I might have: English isn't my first (or even second) language. But I consider it good enough for talking at Internet forums.
Reconsider.
Being stupider
So nobody ever has to worry? Good to know.
criteria
lol
That's a dangerous line of reasoning. Depending on who you ask, people won't consider a lot of things "equal or better".
In no particulary order, a lot of people would not apply ethics to: Animals in general, pets, children, woman or all people of different ethnicitiy, religion or even political views.
I'd argue that ethics should be applied to all living things. Well, at least all things capable of suffering, but that keeps people arguing again - doctors even used to think that human babies aren't fully capable of that.
Regarding the original question: The simulation isn't alive. Stopping it won't 'kill' it, assuming it can be resumed. Deleting it, however, argubly is be unethical, yet it does not cause suffering at the very least.
I'd argue that ethics should be applied to all living things.
So what do you eat then?
Dead things.
Thoughts on disabled people?