So it's the advisors whispering in the Mad King's ear who are to be blamed. Clearly the Mad King bears none of the responsibility for his actions.
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She should be saddled with some of the responsibility just for trying to spare Trump some of it.
I'm just holding everyone who voted for trump in 24 responsible. By that stage nobody could legitimately claim ignorance, they knew what they were doing.
I suspect that a majority of those who voted for Bush (both of them), also voted for Trump; and a majority of those who voted for Trump will vote for a Republican president who will be about as stupid, pro-billionaire, anti-Freedom, and pro-war as Bush and Trump were/was/is.
The majority of them don't care about politics, they just always vote red because they always do and their families have convinced them Democrats are evil.
The majority of Americans are very dumb and have no self worth, so it helps them to attach their identity to someone else with power. That's why so many horrible celebrities and athletes are famous and also the reason they like trump so much.
No point in trying to talk to them, they are honestly too stupid to understand.
Agreed. Heard a quote a while back, don't remember it verbatim but it was something along the lines of "there's no point in trying to make someone understand when they've already made up their mind to not understand." Makes a lot of sense, and having that mindset saves a lot of frustration. Doesn't matter how many facts you shove in their faces, they're not going to change their minds.
I agree with you, but that's 77 million people. How are you gonna hold them responsible? And I ask sincerely, because something's gotta be done with those assholes. I'd accept them just learning from their mistakes and changing their behavior, but, man, I do not see that happening. I hope it does. I hope to god it does, but I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic about it. And if they won't listen to reason, like, what can we do?
...indoctrinated masses are the intended and natural result of their propaganda machine; you don't redress readily-manipulated people by punishing or culling them, you do so by snuffing their propaganda and educating the population...
...the elephant in the room is freedom of communication...
you don't redress readily-manipulated people by punishing or culling them
I certainly didn't mean to imply that we should do that. I definitely don't think we should.
you do so by snuffing their propaganda and educating the population...
Yeah, but education can't be imposed on people. Not without violence and repression, anyway. They have to be willing to learn, and the Trump supporters I know are some of the most defiantly, proudly ignorant and misinformed people I've ever known.
But maybe the right leader could change that. I don't know.
Denaturalize them. They were cool doing it to others so let them experience the same.
That's the big question for greater minds than my own. There was a time not too long ago when it was almost universally agreed that fascist authoritarianism and genocide were horrible, and people who subscribed to those ideals did so secretly because it was shameful. Now there are proud supporters of Nazism, and people being openly racist, bigoted, and hateful. Getting our society back to the point where those people at least hid in shame would be a good start. Of course it doesn't make it go away, as we're seeing right now, but there is no way to truly eradicate this type of thinking. As you said, you can't forcibly educate those who are resistant to it, and anything beyond that gets into "thought police" territory.
I don't know what sort of societal engineering that would take, or who would be in charge of it. I think we were all kind of relying on the fact that most people are overall inherently decent enough to instinctively oppose that kind of shit, but it turns out we were wrong.
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I’m just holding everyone who voted for trump in 24 responsible
What's the sentence, your honor?
My eternal contempt and loathing.
Megan Kelly should be shipped off on an ice float, like 8 years ago
So the people that convinced him are 100% at fault? He's 0% at fault? That how we're mathing that? So you're saying that he's a brainless baby that just agrees to whatever shit the last ass kisser said to him? Well at least we agree on that.
It's entirely consistent with his own world view. When things go well, it's because he's a genius visionary leading America. When they don't, it's was some other guy.
"He'll believe anything you tell him, so it's not his fault." That famous conservative accountability I've heard so much about.
"It's not Trump's fault, he's a gullible idiot" argument
Ah yes, the reverse Nuremberg defense, admitting it wasn’t the chief but in fact you.
So... He's either incompetent or intentionally malicious. Those are all of the options. Either way, he should be standing trial for high crimes against the Unites States and its allies.
His voters do find him relatable...
Here's a fascinating insight into the MAGA mind:
It's never "How do we fix this or make it better?", it's always "Who do we blame and how much can we hurt them?"
At least the hate cannon is priming for blue-on-blue this time.
This could be seen pretty early on in The Apprentice.
The show quickly established that the board meetings would be a pile-on the project leader session everytime with the project leader flailing to fling shit at anyone else in the room hoping something would stick to someone.
It was fascinating and messy. But damn, it was entertaining at the time.
"The buck stops with whomever told me to do it!"
Is Benjamin Netanyahu on the list?
spoiler
Rhetorical question ofc
Putin should be there too.
lol yes, the diabolical genius plan of getting the stable genius to ... attack his largest ally!
JFC
Here, print this out and just keep it in your wallet.
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So what she's saying he's dumb as fuck and got tricked? That isn't better! Fucking morons
Good to hear she took care of that blood coming out of her wherever.
They never admit his wrongdoings. Ask your conservative relative if any human is infallible. Then ask if Trump is infallible. Then ask why they can never say it out loud when Trump does anything wrong. (Apart from social media use, that’s their go-to.)
BTW, allegations that Mark Levin has a micropenis are completely unfounded.
The mohel went full hog
That's AI he needs to prove it in public, on multiple videos preferably in a school zone while saying what he's doing and where.....
This war has been bipartisan policy for 40 years. Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
Not sure about it being bipartisan but Republicans have been pushing for this war since Regan. Be it the time Regan's admiration sunk the entire Iranian navy, to whether Bush administration wanted to put them on the same level as North Korea, to John McCain singing the bomb Iran song during his presidential bid you can see it everywhere. Democrats probably wouldn't oppose it, as we can kind of see, but they haven't shown much spine for any decision popular or unpopular for decades now.
Yeah, I clarify when I mention trump, I'm talking about his whole admin, it's just easier to say trump.
An NBC News poll from earlier this month revealed that 90% of self-identified MAGA-aligned Republican voters support the war
The "no new wars" group are almost fully supportive of this because Dear Leader told them so. So pathetic it's sad.
Is this the view that maga has over their own president? Isnt this pathetic!? Like what the fuck. Poor trump is a child and only did what the evil grown ups told him. :D
This feels like The house burned down and here is who handed the toddler some matches implying the president of the US is not really accountable for his actions.
Ok, they can be held to account too, but this news absolutely doesn’t exonerate Trump from blame since he’s listened to them and he’s president. It’s his decision to make and him being stupid enough to listen doesn’t mean he’s not culpable.
Where's her own fucking name?
They should be held to account ALSO. She’s just trying to deflect responsibility away from president orange.
I seriously doubt Trump was pushed, he just wasn't talked out of it.
Let’s start with Faux News. Seems to be that they’re a revolving door for employment with the administration.
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