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do they need clearer goals?
They need more persistence and more frequency.
1day protests every 4 or 5 months isn't putting pressure on anyone.
Peaceful protests do not put pressure on anyone. They don't achieve anything except showing public support for a cause.
Unless protests turn into more direct forms of action such as blockades or riots, nothing will happen.
These protests are a place for organizing and networking.
But what's really being danced around is "Why are there not politicians converting this movement into effective policy?"
And we all know that the power brokers and leaders of the political parties are being paid to ignore them and keep it a leaderless and rudderless movement. We saw the exsct same thing with Occupy Wall Street and thst resulted in lobbyists codifying their bribery into law.
"No Kings" - Sounds like a clear goal to me. Excuse me now while I get ready 🇺🇸
Probably the best thing about these events, for me, is that I've learned that there are hundreds of like-minded people in my rural area and that I'm not alone in this. Living in this area, it feels like I'm surrounded by nothing by MAGA conservatives and there's no room for dissenting opinions. But it's simply not true. They're just the ones who've been loudest all these years, but that's changing.
Sitting in front of a screen and complaining about what's going on while also disparaging those trying to do something about it -- 100% ineffective, 100% counter productive.
When hundreds of people are showing up in public across thousands of small towns around the country, that's people learning they aren't alone. That's people making new friends. That's people actually getting involved and organizing. And that's not to mention, this is happening in all the major cities as well.
In a way, the demands of the movement are on ourselves, the people attending these events. It comes down to making ourselves responsible for learning how to organize, engaging in political speech, and to normalize exercising our constitutional rights. This is all new to large numbers of people attending these events, so it's a learning experience for a lot of us.
And besides, I think of it this way...
Let's say November rolls around and the president decides to interfere with the elections or he tries to invalidate the elections. What's got a better chance of successfully resisting? A scared and disorganized population that's never organized and/or attended a protest and isn't prepared for what that entails? Or a populace that's done this a few times already in recent history, that's built up support, knows how to organize, knows who to contact, and one who is actively engaged? In this life, there are no guarantees, but if I had to put my money on one of those two, I'm choosing the the latter.
💯 and a couple tips:
You can talk to other people at protests. It’s okay to ask political questions, but also just simple stuff like what brought you out here? What are you most upset about? Not everyone is there for the same reason and it is fascinating to listen to answers and you might make connections that will be valuable when shit goes down.
Say you’re in a liberal city. Are your local leaders going to the protest? Ask them! What could be more beneficial than having people with actual political power on your side in attendance?
Exactly. Doomers need to take a back seat while the grown ups are demonstrating.
People saying saying things like "we need tangible action" are just veiled attempts to damage the movement.
Large-scale nationwide protests are tangible action, for reasons other commenters have already mentioned. Sure, maybe they won't solve all our problems overnight. Nothing will. But they build and sustain the momentum that we need if we're ever going to overcome this. Without that, we have nothing.
A hugely important aspect is to put your money where your mouth is. Vote with your wallet - this administration cares about you more as a consumer than as a citizen.
Be mindful of where you spend your dollars. Shop with local businesses that deserve your money. Single day boycotts of giants like Amazon and Walmart aren’t helpful if you’re just going to show up tomorrow and buy from them anyway. Find alternatives and really consider who will be benefitting from every dollar you have to spend.
Pay in cash. Use local swap or buy nothing groups. Try lending libraries and second hand stores. Give homemade gifts and baked goods instead of store bought presents. Go without. We have been conditioned to live our lives laden down with so much stuff, and truly so many occasional use items don’t need to be owned by every individual household.
Oh look. The same attack they used against Occupy Wall Street. Expect it to be repeated until its accepted wisdom.
Exactly. They're just frustrated because it's too loose for them to make a good target out of.
Turn "No Kings" into a general strike. Ask the French, they are the experts.
We need tangible action.
Theory:
Assembly shows solidarity, and helps to cement a political outlook shared by others. It reminds those in power that we are here and oppose them. Gathering for a mass protest builds the reflex - making it easier to gather en mass in situations when real opposition can make the biggest difference
Practice:
Hey, knock off all that fascism or we WILL take another lap..
I mean these are good places to meet people who agree on taking tangible action.
Speaking for the protests in my area, organizers used them as a way to get people to sign up for local community action groups.
When ICE was deployed in our town a few weeks later, those email and phone lists triggered trainings, neighborhood watch signups, and a bunch of other shit.
My guess is that the good no kings events will be used in a similar way this week. Once people are gathered, organizers will use the opportunity to sign people up for more tactical stuff. ICE watching, election watching, door knocking, etc.
The protests are good ways of meeting like-minded people in your community to form connections, spreading awareness of local mutual aid groups so more can join, or form ICE resistance groups who can join an encrypted chat to coordinate, alert neighbors, and talk strategy. It also is a good place for unions or union members to encourage others to unionize their workplaces, which can also ultimately work toward a national general strike: our most tangible and powerful collective action.
The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor, allowing us to directly demand real changes (Ending the war in Iran, stopping the genocide of Gaza, and Abolishing ICE should be towards the top of the list).
The General Strike was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would've had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
There are some concrete steps all of us can take toward enacting that hard-core general strike to make it more viable and bearable for us all. (the titles below expand if you click them).
Learn First Aid! ⛑️
Violence is being used against those who resist and it will only continue. It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt.
Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.
But you'll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.
Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.
Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks ✊
If you haven't already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
These are groups using direct action to solve each other's problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We've been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
This isn't only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don't want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.
There's also some projects you can do that help build community (and can be fun in themselves!), for more info, go here, and scroll down to the "Fun Projects to Build Community) section"
Join a Union to help prepare for a General Strike! 💪
If you aren't in a union (or even if you are, it's worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you'll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to make a general strike possible.
Once you are in a union you and your coworkers will need to pressure your leadership to prepare for a general strike, as well as pressure them to organize with other unions to enact a general strike. This is especially true if you are in a more traditional union that isn't the IWW. Your local shop may need to organize directly with other unions if your union leaders are too cowardly to do so.
Most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike). A General Strike is officially planned by the UAW for May 1st 2028, but it was planned before Trump was elected, and by then will be too late, so prepare now for one that may start sooner.
You can contact the IWW with the link below:
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn't listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they'll help you set up a new local branch.
Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage 🛡️
Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.
Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.
Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.
Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.
We'll start it off with some General Advice:
For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you'll need to scroll down. I'd add it here, but it won't fit in this comment).
I'd also highly recommend Full Spectrum Resistance to anyone who wants further info on how to resist (audiobook version here).
Any goal would be productive.
Edit: There aren't any demands being made so they don't feel the pressure enough. I know it's about getting together to get the discourse started but meanwhile Trump has started a war without warrant or approval, and that's just the most recent thing he's done. He's planning on messing with the election/voter roll next. Some opposition is needed.
It's good to protest but if everything returns to normal Monday morning, then thsy don't have to change anything.
The morning after the protest in Minnesota ICE shot Alex Pretti. Justice for them should be demanded.
Clearer goals? Its pretty straightforward
I think "Trump bad" is a legit reason
I agree. I think Miller and his dweeb crew have "flooded the zone" - done so much outrageous and horrible shit as quickly as possible - so effectively that protesting over specific issues just doesn't work right now. It's not that little Donnie has done one or more specific bad things that we want him to change policies on. Little Donnie is going out of his way to do as many bad things as possible, and by the time we organize a protest about bad thing number 67, he's already moved on to bad things number 69, 88, and 108. "Go back to Epstein Island and put the adults back in charge" is the only rational message for a mass protest right now.
The [no kings] movement is also leaderless.
So ... they should elect a king to follow?
These protests are an important part of the process. At least one commenter in this thread mentioned that seeing people out there encouraged them to participate more.
And discussions online are also an important part of the process. The discussions online are what led to the protests being organized.
These protests need to lead to discussions of concrete goals - what they should actively accomplish, otherwise they will fizzle out like the Wall Street protests in years past.
And people should see the groundswell of support and run for local office, run for regional office, for state, for national office. Get the experience and take over the government at all levels. Take our country back from fascism.
So all of it is important. Do what you can at every level. Fight against misinformation and fascist propaganda. Get out on the street if you're able. Run for office if you're able. Support those running for office. Participate in discussions about concrete goals.
All of it matters.
The folks I know who are taking more tangible action are not posting about it online, and there’s more of them as time passes. Don’t be passive, talk to people irl, and be smart about your choices and actions. We all have different roles and different levels of risk tolerance.
For everybody who says that the no kings protests are useless: they're not. They provide a space for people to meet those in person to start taking tangible action.
The protests aren't the action, they're an act of organization, which is how you get action.
Exactly, they are an important tool in normalizing a resistant mindset. They get headlines, and it shows others who might be on the fence that the movement is growing. It gives people hope, unifies them.
So even without a cause, we all know what we’re protesting. Normalize the resistance, make it ordinary, make it default. We’ve been listening to their bullshit long enough, I just want to some time to shout myself.
Then I come home motivated and get to work.
This right here is why the “nothing ever happens nothing will be done” people are, at best, unwittingly doing the regimes job for them. When you see that as one of the top comments on nearly every post, it makes ya wonder if it’s not deliberate.
The only thing that's going to get their attention is a general strike. As long as Frank Freeway is more worried about getting fired than he is about what kind of society we're going to live in, that's not going to happen.
No kings needs to become No Oligarchs. All that MAGA responds with are taunts like "we dont have a king" and "We havent had a king in 250 years".
“It’s a declaration of intent that we are going to return power back to the people.”
I mean, that sounds good but, when did the people have power? Are you just trying to get back to the system that gave us Trump? Why did that system give us Trump and what effects was it having on Americans and people around the world?
You can tell that I'm British so I'm clearly not showing up to these protests. But we all have skin in this game as we're all affected by the American Empire, especially today. We need you to get this right and not go back to a world that gave us Nixon, Bush, Bush, Trump and a president that promised hope and change and delivered a healthcare plan from the Heritage Foundation. We really need Americans to understand that the status quo has wrecked our planet and we need to try for something very different.
American here. You and I are on the same page
Also, No Kings is at least a way to meet people. I hope people use it for that
Fuck yes
I've said this before nokings 1, and nokings 2
If it's just going to be protest parades, then don't even bother, you're wasting your time.
Let me be very clear: nokings 1 & 2 changed. nothing.
If you want to change things, protest for weeks, protest in from of the Whitehouse and don't leave until the Cheeto is gone
"Letting the perfect get in the way of the good."
Most people can't stop working and/or travel to DC for endless protests, but they can go out on a Saturday afternoon.
If that's the least someone can do, don't tell them not to.
I live in a fairly rural area and I see about weekly if not maybe every 2 weeks (maybe im not passing through at right times every week) protests against ice / no kings. I'm not trying to say protests are useless, but it hasn't made a difference YET. I do think the more people see how unhappy Americans are with the administration that helps reflect on how our country is perceived by others, as most Americans are unhappy with what's going on. I do think it's very important if your going to protest to go vote. No 8 don't mean presidential and mid term, I mean all your local elections too. Most people don't realize how much local changes actually can effect you more than federal ones, and if u get all the right people in local office I think that will "trickle up" and spread through higher offices. Vote at the booth, vote with your wallet, and don't stop making noise when things need to be heard! Even if no policy change comes from a protest at least awareness was raised, and it's better than sitting down and taking it. (This is being typed from my porcelain throne while I skip out on protests because I have a huge backlog of chores around the house so don't listen to this hypocrite)
Protests are also useful to network and build organizations and skills.
Don't listen to naysayers like this idiot
How about "try this entire administration for treason?"
It's pretty fucking clear to me: Trump acts like a king and ignores the Constitution. That must be stopped at all costs.
I think what this article is failing to state clearly is that none of the government is working therefore No Kings can't achieve its goal of reining in Trump. That doesn't mean we stop protesting. That means we start thinking about the next step: "Stop. Or else".