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They argue that the shadow library failed to appear in court and ignored the preliminary injunction by releasing millions of tracks that were scraped from Spotify via BitTorrent.

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[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Reminder you can use apps like spotube to stream music for free without giving Spotify a cent.

You can also use those savings to go to local shows, although going to one show a year is likely giving more to artists than streaming will.

[–] DeeBeeDouble@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where did you get this screenshot from? I wanna see how much a platform would have paid my artists

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I got this from spotube it has a stats tab.

[–] DeeBeeDouble@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, okay. Is spottube working well for you? I've always had trouble with it so now I'm on OpenTune which works wonderfully. On spottube for example, it would take about 40 seconds for a song to start playing after I hit play.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It works for me know but every now and again it breaks and I need to mess with the plugins it's using.

[–] DeeBeeDouble@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

That's nice. I just tried it again and unfortunately, still, it doesn't work. Now it doesn't load at all. Too bad as it looks like a really nice application

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not defending streaming platforms, but this completely ignores infra costs.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Last time I checked someone stole all their data and it was only 300TB.

Data is cheap. Even cheaper when its peer to peer.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes, data is cheap. Infra is not

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When its just serving and gating access to flac files, it really isn't that complicated of an application, and serving content is a known quantity with cheap tooling.

Just don't use vercel, bro.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You're talking to non -tech nerds about something that usually only tech nerds are familiar with.

Just like on Reddit you're going to get downvoted because people don't understand. Lemmy is effectively the same in that regard.

Just having data is cheap. Actually serving that data up in a meaningful way is expensive as fuck.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks for writing the words down! I struggle with that sometimes.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why would include infra costs when I'm not using Spotify to play the music?

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Are you playing your local music?

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

IIRC, Spotube streams its music from YouTube.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did they still not release the actual torrents though?

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah if that's the case they really kind of fuck themselves by not being strategic in how they announce this.

Announcing it first so you get all the heat before the date is even released is a great way to sabotage your mission.