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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The modern polarisation of political debate assumes that you have to sign up to one camp or the other.

This is, of course, deliberate, and not exclusive to this conflict.

But if you look at who is creating these divisions and why (the Israeli government and the leaders of Hamas, but also all of the external influencers like the US, UK, Iran, Saudi, Qatar, even China and Russia, and why? for money and power of course - oil, gas, weapons development and sales, political capital), you realise there is a third option - choose the "camp" of the people, recognise that we are all subject to manipulation by those in power, that war only profit them and no one else, and that it's those using civilians as pawns in their own power games that people should be aiming their rage at, not those trapped on one side or the other of their murderous cycle.

This should be obvious to anyone who calls themselves a leftist, it's always disappointing when that isn't the case..

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/eyes-left-west-fears-ceasefires

https://socialistworker.co.uk/features/war-and-a-deadly-system-why-conflict-is-central-to-capitalism/

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You forgot to mention the settler colonial background of the conflict and the zionist nature of the state of Israel.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Way to miss the point (not only of OP, but also to prove you didn't read the articles I linked so missed the points they make too, as well as to ignore the fact that I literally listed the Israeli government first of those responsible).

Reactionaries be reactioning I guess...

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's one thing to miss the point and another to disagree. I am with the latter. Close to the end of this article it says:

I’m grateful for leaders who don’t feel the need to take sides.

I don't see how something like this can be fair to the oppressed, no matter who you think they are.
The way I see things in this conflict too, it is worth looking at the power imbalance. I never support the colonisers.

Btw I never claimed to have read your articles, I am talking about this post's argument and your comment. I was just saying your comment missed the historical background.