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[–] Domi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 days ago (36 children)

There is no good evidence that transgender women who have been on GAHT for two years have any physical advantages over cisgender women. https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/60/3/198

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 34 points 5 days ago (32 children)

I'm of two minds about this:

First, let people compete in comparative tier skill events. We have different weight classes for boxing, why should other sports be any different?

Second, who fucking cares? Sports are literally just physical games which have become the victim of capitalism, and the Olympics added nationalism and implicit racial perspectives.

You will never see a Japanese woman winning the 100m sprint. Should we have another category for Asian sprinters? Maybe? But at some point you need to realise:

NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.

Most of these athletes are doing drugs anyway lol.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago

IOC 2022 "Framework on Fairness, Inclusion and Non-Discrimination".

IOC 2026 "Pander to Sexists, Racists, and Morons"

It's so sad to see hatred winning.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sad times if you're a cis woman who happens to have a wider jawline, larger nose or who generally does not look sufficiently "feminine". You can be subjected to cruel, invasive transvestigation instigated by people with sinister motives or bitter rivals.

As always, transphobia is used to pander to bigoted pricks. This is not a victory for women in any shape or form. This just opens more avenues for abuse for the fucking gender police.

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[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think this should be handled by the communities of the different sports in stead. I imagine some sports, like power-lifting, would end up separating on biological sex - with some others wouldn't

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only trans woman to ever compete in the Olympics was a power lifter. She came last.

Your intuition about trans athletes is wrong.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think that single example really proves that. There's reasons why we have separate events for men and women, and some of those have to do with biology - if biology didn't matter, we could just remove the separation altogether.

...but then again, I really don't think it should be up to me either, that's kind of my point. The communities and institutions of the different sports should figure this out, not the IOC, and certainly not me.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 21 hours ago

If transphobia wasn't rampant, that would be ideal. But transphobia is rampant, and it just means each and every sport defaults to exclusion. That's how it worked before this IOC ruling. That's how it worked at the last Olympics, in which zero trans women were able to compete.

Idealised scenarios that assume fairness and good will don't work. They just lead to exclusion, and worse, they make it impossible to gather more data.

And the reason for that is that everyone thinks like you. Which is to say, everyone thinks "Biology matters", but for some reason, is never working to challenge that assumption by acknowledging that trans folks biology changes with the introduction of hormone replacement. It's also a space with a lot of bad faith and actively misleading research, because of the aforementioned transphobia.

Excluding trans people from sport is an openly acknowledged "first step" of a where they're using to normalise exclusion of trans folk in wider society. These are the folk generating much of this research, research that normally would be laughed out of the room, but when it's about trans people and aligns with the "common sense" belief that trans folks have an advantage in sports, somehow the research gets taken seriously.

That's the environment we live in. And that's the environment that tried your approach, as a stepping stone to the outright exclusion we have now.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 9 points 5 days ago

Can we just, I dunno, end competitive sports for a while already?

The planet is going to shit, dictatorships are running wild, democracy is dying, wars, …

Meanwhile these assholes are SOOOO concerned about people their genitalia and using that to distract people from ACTUAL problems. Like maybe just stfu and go away.

Same for the whole Eurosong debacle btw.

[–] WoolyNelson@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Now comes the "spite filings" on athletes just before competition.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (11 children)

They never care about trans men because this is just misogyny.

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