...Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
We have no protections and no privacy, laws or no.
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...Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
We have no protections and no privacy, laws or no.
I hate the way this is getting it twisted.
Just because your signal is misinterpreted does not mean you've waived your rights. It means their system and it's use of citizen's data is flawed and violates the law.
I thought the law said that inadvertent collection has to be deleted asap not that you forfeited your rights.
Right? The real irony is that those who are paid to enforce the law, and who're sworn to uphold it, feel they're above it - beyond reproach.
The system is sick with apathy and outright corruption.
We must save ourselves
Old news... If you are using a VPN, it's "foreign communications" and subject to spying; and if you aren't using a VPN, they route the data through a room that's considered a foreign enclave (like an embassy), turning it into "foreign communications" and subject to spying.
Not sure if you're being facetious, but you're actually correct.
So in the US, locking your metaphorical doors or windows, or closing your digital curtains, means that authorities can presume you are hiding something and your 4th Amendments rights cease to be valid.
All while abusing Third Party Doctrine to buy your data from advertisers and Palantir anyway.
If a VPN routing of someone in Chicago is via Texas and California, what judge would see that as "foreign"? Oh, right, one of their idiot ones they like to give cases like this.
Well, while I agree with that sentiment, you may be looking at it the wrong way.
It's not that locking your doors gives them permission, it's that they're just doing it whether you lock your doors or not.
Imagine you're the NSA, imagine you're already spying on every American who isn't using a VPN (not because you have any legal right to, but because you can). Now ask yourself, where's your biggest blind spot?
This is why they want legal permission to spy on people using VPNs. If they can do it legally, they can just walk right into a VPN's server room and install whatever eyes they want on the inside.
All I'm saying, is that there is no constitutional justification for this, they don't care. Their plan is simple, spy on everyone, fuck the law.
Lmao, what privacy protections? This is the land of the grift, you're more protected using a VPN than without one.
Did they stop spying on americans. Im pretty sure snowden is still living in russia.
America should have took him seriously.
I really think there's no worth in the average American people anymore.
I took him seriously. I was a teenager when Snowden leaked those documents, and I took it seriously.
Why do you think I'm here today?
Yeah it was pretty big. So much of modern times it just boggles my mind for anyone who grew up in the 80's. We are literally how we portrayed russia or what we would become like if we let communism win. A whistle blower had to flee to russia. 100% bin laden won. Half my life has been in this millenium and there is a stark difference before and after (even with there being plenty which headed us in this direction).
“Mighty suspicious of you to protect yourself from our abuse. You must be up to no good.”
As if they weren't already scooping up people's information already. The point of VPN and other defenses is just to make investigation too expensive to do as a free action.
Reminder that VPNs are mostly pointless for privacy if you post on Facebook and don't make your browser hard to fingerprint and track.
Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they're entitled to under the law.
lmao
Yeah. That really jumped out at me. My very first thought was “Americans have privacy protections?” Since Roe v Wade was overturned, Americans have basically no right to privacy.
Lmao then they bitch and moan when people abroad start cutting back on us-based tech and enforcing open standards
The entirety of this has made me furious so I'm leaving a comment to remember to come back and soapbox in a bit.
https://www.scribd.com/document/1017859680/Congressional-VPN-Letter-to-Dni
And the letter (because these asshats make these things difficult to find)
Lemmy, where the ND people are aware enough to know that by nature they get impulsively angry and need to cool off. I am not good at it.
I already assume the gubmint can see everything else I do. The VPN just keeps my ISP from cancelling my service.
Does anyone seriously believe that not using a VPN would save you from governmental snooping?
Yes. Not me, but I have spoken to several that think this so vehemently, they scoffed at me for using one, with comments like, "ok, al Capone", "what are you hiding?", and (my personal favorite) "only criminals hide from the cops".
After what Snowden has uncovered, Palantir plain in the open, companies like Meta/Facebook and Alphabet/Google shitting on your privacy , I am absolutely sure you will be subject to spying always and regardless of what you're doing.
I'm curious how this works in action. If you use a VPN provider that doesn't do logging, and inherently you're traffic is encrypted via that VPN, what are they spying on? That's kind of the whole purpose of running a VPN in the first place.
If they happen to somehow see the unencrypted traffic, I hope they enjoy sifting through ass loads of torrent data. Good luck, shit bags.
It's not so much spying as moving you to the front of the line for suspicious persons.
I hope I'm there already. If I'm not then I'm not being vocal enough about how much I despise the current US government
I hope they have fun watching me pirate the entirety of the Pokémon anime then.
Just change your username AiLearningModule.
Things keep going on their current path, I'll be using i2p fairly soon.
I wonder how the goberment feels about that?
Edit: spelling

Ice cold.
I hope they enjoy Farscape, because that's what they're getting of they eavesdrop me.
They already spy on everyone. They probably do worse and promote social manipulation too.
Humanity is owned. And they are trying to own it further with air and digitizing everything. And they will succeed because most people don't give a fuck and just consume all the bullshit and lifestyles marketed to them.
reddit pretty much would ban people using vpn , so they know too.
like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say "bomb", "arson", "nuke" etc. It's time to use more VPN to generate such a level of white noise where it becomes impractical to track VPN access...
Why do you think they're buying so much AI shit right now? To filter through the noise for whatever they want to find. People aren't the bottleneck anymore.
And it's not like they particularly care about false positives.
No.
Stop fearbaiting.
It was the Swedes causing mass shootings in America the whole time!
Bro these last two years I've been put on every list. It's way too late for any of this.
Doesn't CGNat obscure the user true location in the same way? And what kind of VPN are we talking about? Company with exit node in the country? Commercial ones only?
I guess I am on the "watch list" as my company uses multiple different VPN solutions so I can access work files cross offices and remotely when in the field.
Also, what about personal home VPNs where I want to route all my device traffic back to my home when I am out of the house like at a cafe/mall/airport?
But, what VPNs? This is never described. All in general or specific ones?
Welp I hope they enjoy the most degen shitposts my dumb brain can come up with