Political Memes

“Literally the only way”? They tried violent treason and have refused to swear in duly elected reps that are not of their party. If you think they’ll leave when their term is up just because you voted someone else in… the major players aren’t going anywhere. These aren’t the kind of people that gain power and then let it go. Don’t not vote, but don’t believe that’s how we’re getting out of this mess.

I vote in all elections, while simultaneously believing all politics is theatre conducted by those that actually own the world.

A lack of good options in the general is a sign of poor turnout in primaries.

To only have two sides is the problem.

Uh-oh. I guess this means I should show up to the polls next time. And vote for the less-bad candidate.

But I hate it. I HATE ALL OF IT.

Both sides bad AND you still have to vote.

Voting is about the lowest form of political influence (besides doing nothing). If all you do is vote then you're left with candidates determined by others. You can (and should) still vote for the least worst option of those that have a chance of winning, because not voting effectively means you approve of all options. The only thing you can vote against in an election where one of two options will win is one of those options, by voting for the other. Anything else won't matter.

If you want better options to vote for, you need to be politically active besides voting, actively working to establish better options, tell the established parties what candidates and policies you want them to support, support smaller parties that represent your interests better, and that might slowly shift it into a direction more to your liking.

Of course that's much harder that doing nothing at all and proudly telling yourself that that will somehow delegitimize the system - the system doesn't care. Election results are shown only as a proportion of valid votes, anyone else has no influence on the result at all.

As a lifelong Independent, this post can F all the way off.

Yes, this is my civil, indoor voice.

Don't you MFing tell me not to have opinions and free will, and that I should change who I am so I don't make a bunch of establishment Dems that genuinely don't care if I'm alive or dead have bad feels. Maybe the Dems should Fing field people that don't gobble billionaire scroat like they invented it.

And Democrats can maybe, just once in a while, not happily fundraise and capitulate and do the policy strategy version of pump and dump schemes around the central point of "hey, we're not the Nazis, we're the mildly annoying guys that whimper when Nazis do Nazi shit, but do eventually give them everything they want. So it's Nazi shit FAST or Nazi shit less fast with some of us around :D"

"Both sides suck" posts should encourage anyone with guts to see how much of the country wants a god damned set of independent candidates or even, (shudder) another MFing option between Shibag A and XXXL Shitbag B. People need to shed the chains of both parties and run at the local level. Give both sides a fucking scare.

Try your hardest to create a new party the day after election day. If it fails, vote Democrat and start trying again the next day.

You have no idea how strongly and passionately I wish to see the day that you guys get a proper multi-party system. What you have right now is super fucked up.

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

EDIT: Also, yes, Trump and GOP are definitely trying to downright rig elections and that can't be ignored, of course

People deserve to vote for someone they actually support, not the least terrible option.

Stop blaming the voters.

both sides are bad, but voting for lesser evil is still better than letting bigger evil prosper. But pretending choice between 2 evils is the ONLY option is what is perpetuating this bullshit. And if there truly is nothing to be done except accept your one party system that is split in 2, you need to work on dismantling the whole system instead but that is chemoterapy level option so hopefully it doesnt get to that.

America needs more parties so people have actually something to vote.

The Democrats are bad, but the Republicans want you dead.

Do you really need it spelled out more than this ? VOTE for heaven's sake.

No raindrop feels responsible for the flood.

Every time I say something like that a self proclaimed intellectual comes around and tells me how he couldn’t vote for Kamala because he is totally not a Russian bot and he had to stop Kamala from starting a war in the Middle East.

No, this claim is false.

I know both sides are absolute shit, and I still voted for Harris. And I hate Harris, though not as much as Biden or Trump. I would not have voted for Biden.

I didn't "design" this opinion to manipulate anyone's vote. My opinion has been earned through life experience, including political volunteering and running for office.

When will we prolls wrap our heads around the fact that we have been excluded from the Democratic process by the electoral vote. Not trying to be mean or sarcastic I'm just looking for a timeline.

If you have a problem with the truth, that's a you problem. You can disagree with a course of action, but if truthful criticism of Dear Leader makes someone The Enemy to you, you're much closer to fascists than you'd like to admit.