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[–] WandowsVista@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

both sides are pretty bad, but you still gotta get on the bus

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 87 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Now the question is which is easier, convincing millions of people to vote for “anyone not a republican” or convincing a candidate to be more than “not republican”

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Hey, primaries are around now. It's a great time for that!

Participate in primaries. THIS is the election you want for that.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 82 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you are form the US, you are having your primaries by now.

Those are the ones where good people appear and need your vote to stay on the race. Go participate there, instead of complaining about the main election.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's two-fold.

The overton window has shifted so far that we're getting warmongering from the democrats.

'Half' of the congressional left are sleeper agents for the right.

The DNC keeps pushing right and refuses to do anything to keep us from sliding into authoritarianism. Appeasing the right, Siding with Israel.

But not voting left is the same as voting right, that IS how the right wins.

And voting left is just giving them a blank check to keep sliding that window further right.

Neither party is going to let a third party in.

Appeasing the left is making them worse.

The rub, people think if they keep not-voting or voting independent, the DNC will give in and start moving stuff left. They won't. They don't truly want to win.

It's like fucking Brewsters millions out here, but "None of the Above" won't fucking help either.

I think, mostly, we can agree that the agenda of the "left" is the lesser of two evils, but the evils are getting so bad that we need desperately to do something to move the window back left a little.

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[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Your frequent reminder from the local queer, leftist furry that if "voting didn't work," Republicans and billionaires wouldn't spend billions of dollars on voter suppression and propaganda telling you that your vote doesn't matter.

Do your part, waste billionaire money by voting anyway, by any means necessary~

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Dump the f'n Electoral College!!!

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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago

I mean, both sides DO suck. But the decision being made boils down to which side you think has the best chance of leading to an eventual outcome that doesn't suck. I'm not voting for a party I like, because frankly that doesn't exist as a viable option, but I'm not going to not vote just because neither side is better than a 3/10. I'd rather the 3/10 than the 1/10.

I think there's real value in being honest about your feelings. The people who represent us need to know we think they suck. The people around us need to feel like others have the same struggles we do. The space for nuance does exist.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"But they'll steal the elections!!!!!"

Oh yeah? Just like all those state and special elections they've been losing by double-digit electorate shifts for the last 18 months? Including the one covering FUCKING MAR-A-LAGO???

Grow the fuck up. Get registered to vote, and when elections come round, VOTE, DAMN IT. Fascism only wins if you just give up and let it.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Exactly. I personally believe the election is going to be stolen, but nobody should fucking do the job FOR them. Voting MIGHT work, and you can still prepare for ridiculous, shortsighted guerilla fantasies after taking a day to go TRY the easy solution.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago (26 children)

They'll try to shove you off the platform with constant negativity and trying to act like Trump is just a continuation of all the same. If you didn't care before, why do you care now?

It's not. It's different.

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[–] dumbass@piefed.social 47 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you dumb fuck Americans should have voted for Vermin Supreme.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

You gotta keep voting the lesser of two evils for the main elections, while voting for the best alternatives you can find locally.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

The fact that you think there's two sides is the problem.

[–] Loui@feddit.org 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you don't vote then you don't get to complain until the next election.

You refused to have a say and now you have to live with the consequences. No bitching.

And you should do that in all elections. Small and big.

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[–] psoul@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Imagine the hammer is the polling box and all your solutions look like voting when your think all your problems look like nails.

Everyone should vote. Absolutely. Go out, do it, cast that ballot.

Voting won’t solve all of our problems. We need to go beyond just voting.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Dear Americans, voting for Democrats will get you nowhere, too. I know this is hard, but you will have to start a revolution or vote for a third party in an unprecedented coordinated effort.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 30 points 6 days ago (23 children)

One should vote, it simply shouldn't be the end of it.

If you voted Democrat and thought you made your part, wrong. You barely made one shift towards one slightly less terrible group. This is not victory. A part of what you should do, yes. All you should do - not.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

If you guarantee your vote to someone, they will lose any incentive to act for your benefit. It's really that simple. And if genocide is not a bridge too far for you, God help you, because obviously there's no limit to what you'll put up with.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good thing Trump ended the genocide!

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Anything to not have to grapple with the idea that just voting blue is not enough, huh? And are we going to pretend that Biden didn't gleeflully pour billions into the genocide?

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago (8 children)

No, the point is to agitate you against an establishment that wants to prevent you from having a better choice.

Liberals who are passionately defending lesser evil electoralism before primaries have even started are either idiots in denial or moderates who don't want to talk about why their party is nearly as unpopular as Trump.

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[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You gotta use that energy to push people in the primary

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (5 children)

As an American that's never not voted, I don't understand these fucking assholes.

Genuinely... Fuck them. We're fucked because of the people that don't vote, not because of the minority of insane MAGA's.

The winner of our last presidential election was actually "didn't vote".

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[–] Tharkys@lemmy.wtf 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That doesn't negate the fact that both parties are, in fact, bad.

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[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I vote in all elections, while simultaneously believing all politics is theatre conducted by those that actually own the world.

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