Ask Lemmy

I enjoy discussing and confronting ideas. I see no interest in arguing.

I used to, when I used to believe people could change their minds in response to a good argument. Now that I realise no one ever changes their mind because of an argument, I no longer enjoy it. Now I mostly see it as a self reinforcing public display of affiliation

No.

I really don't. No-one argues to convince anyone, just to state their own opinions louder.

I used to. I'm an old school troll. I enjoy messing with people and teasing. If I can make things difficult or awkward for someone, then get both of us to laugh about it, I'm in heaven. But over the last couple of decades people take themselves more seriously or something and its harder to get people to be silly or appreciate the absurd. People don't enjoy it any more so I stopped doing it. I don't want to get people actually mad, or have them be truly upset. But yeah, I'd argue just about anything to get someone going. I'd get more and more outrageous till they finally twigged what I was doing. Then I'd do the same thing to the next person but take a different stance. Usually the first person would join in and it would just snowball.

As in debate? I used to but I have less patience for it now. Its possible because I did so much of it I tire of rehashing things with folks who have not as thoroughly gone through the many things. I still am a little obsessed with the idea of truth though.

I enjoy it when I find out I was wrong. That moment of "oh shit!?" is awesome.

I also really enjoy arguing pedantically over fictional worlds.

I don't mind arguing, but it's fueled by my undying rage at dumbfuck assholes. Pick a lane! Sheesh.

No, I enjoy respectful discussion and learning. There is a huge difference. When you get to the raised voices, snide remarks, and it feels like your hair is on fire the whole time it's arguing.

I lived with a woman who loved to constantly bicker and argue, sometimes to the point where there were screaming matches over stupid stuff. You didn't dare defy her. She was in a family that constantly fought and argued over pretty things. I was stuck with it and arguing with her boyfriends who 80 percent of the time were not all that bright. I hated arguing by the time I was in school.

That was my mother. When I finally left I could eat a meal and be sick, vomiting a green slime because of the constant fighting and crap. My son a few months prior had passed away at 9 days old, we had been homeless because of her decisions to not pay things, and her latest winner of a boyfriend kept picking fights with me because I was younger so obviously I knew nothing and he knew it all.

This man screwed up so many things because he could do it all. He did a brake job on a car and had to treat it apart again because he messed something else up. Not to mention he didn't torque the lug nuts. My mother's previous boyfriend would hand me a part and tell me, "the pickup needs tree water pump replaced, go do it." When I had never done one in my life without telling me how pre internet and had no problem. From around 9 to i was 18 that guy who was a former biker, maybe draftee, and spent 15 years in maximum security prison for beating the crap of of his ex and her new man then taking a TV and slamming it on the man's head nearly killing them both so also seemed to hate my guts.

I finally left not long after she got drunk and pissed off at me for something and told me how her life had been ruined because she had me.

I can't stand fighting and arguing. I can't stand taking on the phone either, my mother loved yelling and slamming them too she had the 50 foot cord and loved the cordless ones.

The only time I had fun with arguing was in WoW... have some public fight and be breezing through, then stir the pot and leave. Come back hours later and they were still at it. My favorite was for the grammar nazi's, a simple, "There, their, they're... it'll be ok." Was my favorite.

Typically, no. Not in person and not online. However, winning an argument - in particular one that brings fairness or justice as a consequence - feels very rewarding. But I still don't enjoy the actual arguing part.

Discussing different points of view though, I don't always consider this arguing. As long as it remains an exchange, it is pleasant. If I have to attack and defend something personal, then no.

I loved arguing and being just overall mean and negative and a cunt to people on Reddit who posted really absolute complete garbage sludge, like parroting the same tired Le Epic phrases that were already posted 20 times in the comment section before they squeezed the rubbish bin juice out of their half-a-brain cell enough to comment “pLaY StUpiD GamEs, Win…” and when they’d get mad at me for being mean I’d always have a great time.

I can’t really do that here. It’s nice. I don’t really see completely horrible dumb garbage here very often. It’s very refreshing. So I don’t really feel the need to be a cunt anymore. As much.

Also sorry for the insane run-on sentence there, but it fits how I wanted to express it from my brain hole.

For as long as the topic is interesting and the other person is being civil about it and is actually arguing against what I'm saying and not just what they think I'm saying.

Yes, a lot, it's my favorite hobby. I like trying to make good arguments, appreciating when other people make good arguments, and pointing out bad arguments. Topic doesn't matter too much, though maybe free speech is the one I get most heated about, especially the idea that arguments are worthless and should be suppressed.

Only against people who are wrong.

If it’s discourse, I find it can be enlightening and learn something new. I don’t really like heated arguments cos I just get ready to square up at that point. I’m confrontational about things I could probably just let go but I have to be a Larry David about it and the response is always very defensive from the person I’m calling out

I used to. now I don't want anyone to contradict me. I know I'm right, so if you argue with me you're either stating a falsehood or falling prey to bad reasoning.

Depends way too much what we are talking about or how their arguments are made to say either way.

Hypothetically, yes. Practically, no. Arguing is fun and engaging when you have a sparring partner who is sharp, engaged, and persuadable. If changing someone’s mind isn’t on the table, or if all you’re capable of doing is poorly repeating memes and headlines you’ve seen, I’m not interested.

Who's arguing? I came in here for a disagreement!

Not really. I can enjoy a debate, IF the other person is doing so in good faith. Challenging, enlightening discussions are always welcome!

Generally speaking, if one of us can’t “agree to disagree” and happily change the subject, then it won’t be a good time.

Arguing is not contradicting everything I say.

Yes it is.

Stop that.

No