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Virginia admits thousands of voters wrongly purged days before election (www.theguardian.com)
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Voting rights groups decry error days before elections that will determine which party controls the state legislature

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 85 points 2 years ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gov-elect-youngkin-s-underage-son-tried-vote-twice-virginia-n1283376

The governor of Virginia's son committed voter fraud, got caught and turned away, waited half an hour, came back, and tried to commit voter fraud a second time. The governor said that there would be no legal consequences for his son despite having committed voter fraud twice.

So, for those of you keeping score at home, if Governor Youngkin likes the way you vote you can try to vote illegally as many times as you want, but if he doesn't like the way you vote he won't let you vote even if you're legally allowed to.

[–] cuibono@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Any plans to actually do something about this now that we're all officially aware of it?

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"What's done is done. What we need to do now is focus on coming together as a nation. Let me direct your attention to something irrelevant. Feel better? Good, now fuck off."

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 50 points 2 years ago

Thousands of voters disenfranchised.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This shit is happening in every fucking state for every fuckin election. Fucking traitors silencing the voice of the people

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

GOP traitors, you mean?

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How convenient

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oopsy doodles, I guess you don't get to vote. Oh well, better luck next time. - Making a joke of it, but crap like this should result in jail time for those responsible.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It should also result in the election being invalidated if the number of people disenfranchised is enough to possibly affect the outcome.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Along these same lines, why does the group who gerrymandered the voting map get to redo that map. shouldn't they each individually be barred from creating voting maps for ever more?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody should lose the right to vote. Even Charles Mason, Timothy McVeigh, and the Unabomber deserve the right to vote while incarcerated because they are still part of society and their opinion on who should lead is as valid as some neo nazi that hasn't been convicted of a crime yet.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I would agree, with maybe two narrow exceptions. 1) Participation in a coup or insurrection against the federal or any state government, and 2) any action with intent to fraudulently deny any other person's right to vote or have their vote counted.

Would usually be hard to prove intent on the second one, but just the threat of it would probably stop a good bit of this nonsense. If you're trying to block others from having their fair say in our democracy, then you shouldn't have a say yourself, anymore.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

While that sounds good in that specific context, there are two considerations.

If the number of people convicted is small, it only serves to set a precident for removing the right that could be applied to other criteria while not really having any impact on the voting results.

Having something like that allows for it to be weaponized against political opponents and their supporters. We can already see that with removing felons right to vote, which goes along with discriminatory convictions intentionally designed to negatively impact minorities.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

bUt tHaT UnFaIrLy tArGeTs rEpUbLiCaNs!

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Would usually be hard to prove intent on the second one, but just the threat of it would probably stop a good bit of this nonsense.

Well, any felony currently blocks you from voting, so I don't see how a more selective block with the same consequences would do anything at all to discourage what they're already doing.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Revoke their citizenship. Drop them down to documented aliens. Let them earn their citizenship back the same way immigrants do, after a probationary period, of course. And in addition to prison time.

Can imprisoned persons legally naturalize anyway? Normally they would just get deported.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been a long time since this country even resembled a real democracy.

[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago

Get involved in local politics then; while the table is invariably skewed towards the rich and powerful, local politics is often the spawning ground for candidates. The global perspective of catastrophe fuels the feeling of powerlessness and robs the more actionable problems in our community of the focus they should be getting. To clarify, you have every right to complain and I don’t mean to insinuate that you don’t if you aren’t involved; just offering a possible solution to the problem you mentioned.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The secretary of state saw a black mark on the voter rolls and he felt a darkness and it colored his viewpoint which is why those specific voters, none of whom have any skin in the game anyway, got struck from the rolls. And they don't have a single thing in common.

[–] devbo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I couldn't get through the article after the second "had had". i understand what they are saying, but it still sounds like a child wrote it.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every time I think of moving somewhere with a lower cost of living, stuff like this happens and reminds me why I pay a premium.

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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