This thread is s seriously lacking a definition of feminism. People, you are talking about different things. There are so many varieties of feminism. Some are awesome - others like TERFs not. Different countries have different struggles in regard of gender - the situation in the USA or Saudi Arabia is different from that in Europe or Russia.
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The supremacist right of having/deserving only supremacist privileges.
In the many times I’ve had men (and some women ffs) force this explanation upon me, they usually:
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Have fundamental misunderstanding of what feminism is. They often think women want dominance over them or something, giving them a victim complex.
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Support feminist values in theory, but get annoyed when literally anything at all is asked of them to contribute to meaningful change. (see also: systemic racism)
Neither of these are an excuse and I’m so exhausted hearing them over and over.
Edit - oh, damnit, I didn't see what community I was posting in. Hello from /all. Sorry to intrude!
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I think the logic on #1 (though they probably don't consciously realize this) is women have generally been treated terribly for millennia, they don't want the same treatment themselves.
There also is a fair amount of (very understandable) misandry mixed in with feminism. Not that all feminists are misandrists but all misandrists are feminists and this is amplified in media.
Misandrists are fake feminists
Real feminists are not misandrists
All misandrists are feminists? That’s simply not true.
Yes? I have never met someone who hates men that also thinks women deserve fewer rights than them.
Your personal experiences are not universal truths.
Dude. We’re talking about a person who hates men and boys but also thinks women should have fewer rights and opportunities than them. What would that even look like?
Feminism is about equality for all genders at its root. Misandrists are not feminists.
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I find this website equally as anti-feminist as Reddit. Doesn't really surprise me since this website is more male than Reddit and also full of Reddit refugees.
It's incredibly anti-feminist and misogynistic. It really feels like early Reddit days and 4chan here more often than not.
We've got men coming in this very thread crying misandry because of a somewhat critical tone towards men who aren't feminists.
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I feel like it'd work better if you'd ask them "should men be treated like how you want to treat women: without a right to decide whether to have a child, without being able to work, without being ... etc.".
I feel like most men don't really understand, unless if they were put in our shoes. I've seen shows where that exactly happens: they get whistled at by even stronger people, they're derided and told their views don't matter, they get lower wages (in simulations), and so on. Some do change their mind after that, at least.
A large part of the issue is the framing the right wing uses. The right wing will say something like, "well, if you want equal rights, you'd be egalitarian, not a feminist." And then point to the most extreme examples of feminism like, I dunno, a woman killing a bunch of people and claiming to be a feminist? as what all feminists stand for, and only use uncharitable examples. And if a viewer doesn't have enough feminine friends to vouch, it seems to them like the issues either don't exist or are exaggerated.
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They honestly feel like women have enough rights now and feminism is just a means to destroy men in the modern world.
It's so frustrating to see people not look past their own nose.