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[–] vinyl@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Liberated systemd is a fork of mainline systemd started by Jeffrey Seathrún Sardina, a machine learning/AI researcher

I already have qualms about that.

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 week ago

Far many more than someone.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Okay I've said this so many times but (open source) code is speech and thus protected by free speech laws. Also idk if anyone's noticed but it's pretty obvious ID verification is for mass surveillance and obbo purposes. Now why would this apply to software that we already know doesn't spy on you? Until now, proprietary software and big tech platforms already spied on you, but it could - to an extent be pseudonymised. This isn't about spying on people, they already do that, it's about removing pseudonymisation - instead of your data being stored under: User #2044820 it'll be your full govt name and address leaving no room for doubt or plausible deniability.

It is by every metric, useless to provide ID verification for software that collects no data, at best it would just give them a better idea of the demographic. Also it's literally open source, the GPL prohibits disallowing people from forking/editing it and it prohibits restrictions on the way in which it can be edited, which is legally binding.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Feels like something systemd can solve with a compile time flag. Either have it on or off depending on if you want to legally sell it in those areas or not and away you go.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

if there is no malicious intent in adding this, they really should learn to read the room.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I didn't realize age verification had been put in yet? holy shit tat was fast

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well not really, they added a field so that they could store date of birth in the way they have a field to store "real name".

So you can be sure my birthday is 4/20/1969 as sure as you can be that my name is Bimbo Baggins.

Note that for the California law at least, this is "good enough" and the OS never actually has to validate anything. In practice a person without admin access could have their birthdate out of control, well, until they run a patched browser that skips asking systemd and just always sends a desired bracket...

It kind of works to keep kids under 13 sending the signal with parental administration, but doesn't do anything for more resourceful people you tend to find over 13.

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[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (40 children)

FUCK THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF STUPID USING LINUX. Lots of tin foil hat wearing morons making mountains out of molehills.There was no age verification support added. All that happened is a DOB field was put in so people can add their date of birth IF THEY CHOOSE TO so it can appear in their user account. It isn't uploaded to anyone, it's not checked by anyone, it is not mandatory to complete and you can leave the field blank.

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After all, any and all age checks we have nowadays are a black box anyways

This is the only part I disagree with. Age verification is typically done via services like ID.me, Lexis Nexus, etc which do it via identity verification with documentation. The alternative method that most social sites have gone with is age prediction from a face scan, of which providers are more than happy to tout how they do it as differentiators. For the latter, there are even FOSS options.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I think what they mean is, with a black box we know the input, documents, and output, yes you can buy beer, but we don't know the internals. How and for how long is the data stored, who is it shared with, who has access to it, how much meta data can they pull together to build a profile on you and so on.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You probably want to mod it so that whenever (in future) it's called on to send an age to an external service then it just supplies a new randomised dob or age. Another good feature would be to make sure that the OS exposes any such checks to the user.

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