Here's a list of all the commercially available US made routers below
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Its probably to force people to use ISP routers which imo are compromised from the gecko
I was going to correct you then I saw your username and I’m fucking amused.
As you were.
3 word generators for the win 😀
I fucking hate my xfinity router. their excuse of a "settings" panel can ONLY be accessed from their app 🤮, and just marvel at the plethora of options you can configure:
SSID
Password
xfinitywifi Hotspot ON/OFF
"Safe" Browsing ON/OFF
this is madness compared to my previous att router, which while still a shitty ISP router, at least had enough settings to create a proper self-hosting environment. I feel this is being done to kill self-hosting.
You don't have to use their hardware. In fact, you can save the monthly equipment rental fee by purchasing and setting up your own. I've been using Xfinity with my own cable modem and router for years.
I'm aware, but this post is saying that it won't be possible for much longer
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But 15 minutes could save you 15% on your car insurance!
which imo are compromised from the gecko
elvis sings: "In the geckoooo"
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From the ... gecko? From the get-go. Boneappletea in the wild, or autocorrect gone wrong?
Requested context provided at the time stamp, though you can watch entire clip its gold
Thank you for your kind act of mercy.
ISP-supplied routers are not made in the USA. So no.
Yeah that was my question. The US can manufacture routers now???
We can make wafers here, and we can absolutely do final assembly using wave solder machines (worked for a couple of companies in Austin doing either) but it’s the crucial step between that we don’t do. The US doesn’t really make electrical components, not at that scale anyway. We don’t even spend the money on pick and place machines, and even if we do final board assembly here it’s sub-par at best. I’m arguing with my boss every day that I’m not a damn machine, I can’t make perfect solder joints every time.
Provided they are made with rolled steel and have a big-ass two-stroke diesel attached, I am entirely sure that routers are within the abilities of the US's high-tech industrial base.
Can you power a router with Clean Coal™?
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Everyone who is even remotely technically able and even slightly concerned about privacy needs to learn how to BYO router
Sounds... like a bit of a pain in the ass.
So, I imagine we're talking about a linux micro-pc with perhaps 1 or 2 additional pcix networking cards?
If you want a dedicated device, sure. Image it with OPNSense and it'll basically just work.
You can also take any desktop you already have, fire up an OPNSense VM, pcie passthrough your WAN NIC + WiFi card, bridge to a separate LAN NIC, go through the setup, and there's your router.
Alright, well I appreciate the direction there, that's really helpful.
You can also take any desktop you already have, fire up an OPNSense VM, pcie passthrough your WAN NIC + WiFi card, bridge to a separate LAN NIC, go through the setup, and there's your router.
Although, I gotta be honest, for someone who doesn't regularly use Linux, that does sound like a lot of potential issues getting this working.
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until their maker gets an exemption
Ah, yes, how to ask for a bribe 101.
Let me guess, Don Jr. conveniently started a router company yesterday?
Wait, it talks about FCC radio authorization. However that doesn’t make it a router, just an access point. Quite a few routers (thinking the Pro-sumer Uniquiti UXG models) don’t even have radios and aren’t wireless so there’s no radio they can withhold certification on. This could affect AIOs but all you’d have to do is separate your router from your AP.
Definitely sounds like a quickly thrown out, half baked shakedown (bribe) measure with something they could control (radio authorization) and just targeted routers since that’s a common place they are.
Many people will soon find joy in slapping a 4-port NIC into an old PC and learning nftables, BIND9 and kea.
It’s nftables little Bobby Tables’ brother?
I will find joy in learning about all of these things now.
Thank you!
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So... can I still flash custom firmware like OPNsense and Openwrt on them? Cause I literally just posted about hardware decision a few days ago 😭
Edit: It seems the article and actual FCC document will leave previous router models alone, but anything newer is cooked... Even the US brands like Cisco aren't actually manufactured here because we fucking outsource evrything. I hate this government.
You can just buy one of those SBCs with two RJ45 ports that can be used as routers, i doubt that those will be banned.
They COULD just regulate these things...
Nooooooo! The free market hates regulation.
But, loves... banning? Wait, that can't be right...
Seriously, how hard is it to write a blanket, "No spyware allowed in electronics whatsoever" law and call it a day?
At least this bans isreali routers
It's always projection. This means the dark empire is weaponizing commercial drones and wifi routers and everything else. They don't want anyone to do to them, what they will now do to you.
That was exactly my thought. "Oh, this means thar the US has Spyware on the routers produced inside the USA, and any US drone has killswitches built in."
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United on Spying on our Asses.
Dear American government, I have a better idea: Ban proprietary software on routers. You can even go a bit further and ban proprietary OSes totally. This way nobody will spy on your citizens without their knowledge.
looks dubious
I mean, I don't disagree that there are security risks posed by random consumer broadband routers. It is definitely the case that unmaintained
not intentionally shipped with malware
routers have been a real security problem in the past. My own view is that the current set of conventions, which often has very poor or no security on devices on the LAN and thus relies on the router to keep bad stuff out, is a very real part of that problem, but sure, having a secure router is part of that.
However.
I'd say that the majority of the threats that a router poses are also posed by any device on the LAN that can call out to the Internet. Like, you aren't doing a lot to secure devices on the LAN if you ban routers and then I can still go buy random gadget from wherever that can get on the WiFi or wired Ethernet network and phone home, take instructions from home, and can talk to other devices on the LAN. I mean, are you also going to ban, say, smart televisions? Ethernet-connected security cameras? I mean, poorly-secured network-connected cameras have posed very real threats in places like Ukraine, where military intelligence has actively exploited them to get information about an area come conflict.
And I just don't think that we're going to commit to locking that down.
The idea is to stamp some that install doge palantir vibe coded back door to the propaganda control machine then they're "made in the us" and then you just have to come up with a good excuse. But the excuse department is kind of busy, so wysiwyg
They did a first pass on banning security cameras many years ago. It was maybe the test bed, I can definitely see that one getting revisited. They only banned two major manufacturers that had kinda already been caught as a major security concern.
It's why you don't see hikvision or dahua anymore where they used to be major players.
Ah yes, more security holes incoming. Gotta love maglomania (not sure if that is the correct word?)
Well, I tried to get y'all to stock up on drones a year ago
Unrelated: drones make a great Christmas gift for that recently laid off, benefits denied, recently diagnosed with a disease caused by known carcinogens in their everything, injured at work, under paid and exploited person you know.
Get em before they’re deemed a safety hazard and pulled from shelves.
For some reason the above comment gives an error of Error when viewed outside my comments.
https://lemmy.ca/post/34476205/13234882
Maybe I made them ban drones:
I may have suggested some things.
You may have to copy and paste that link - voyager refuses to open it.
OPNSense and a 2 NIC PC are all you need.
I was hoping to hold off on upgrading my modem and router until at least one of them died. Considering the nature of the Regime, I should just bite the bullet and spend some of my savings. That money will lose value anyways.
Costco is selling an BE19000 router for about $240. That is a bit cheaper than the same thing on Amazon.
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