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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm almost 48. My profession: foreign languages and literature. I have had a computer since I was 7 years old. I know how to use Linux and I have played video games all my life. I know a little code. I'm good with computers. A lot of people my age in my profession are not all that good with computers. They think they are because they can make a PowerPoint presentation or took a class on how to use a spread sheet as a grade book. So, I don't know, I don't think everyone on here are older tech nerds, so it's not exclusive to them. They could be the majority, though. Am I a nerd? Yes. But a different type of nerd. I speak three languages and read six. I can diagram a sentence and correct peoples' grammar and vocabulary in my sleep. I know all about literature from the 16th and 17th centuries. I play video games and I like technology enough, but it does not consume my life. Are there lots of people on here like me? I don't know. I DO know that I've interacted with a lot of younger people on here. To understand how to use this new type of social media you have to understand technology pretty well. It isn't for people who just want to tap or click on stuff that "just works." You need a basic understanding of how decentralized social networks function to be able to navigate it and you have to have patience with things that might slow down or do strange things every once in a while. There are lots of people my age that would not have the patience to learn how to use this space on the internet. In a lot of ways, they are very similar to the stereotypes of "average twenty-somethings" I've seen mentioned in this thread. No worries about privacy. In some cases, perfectly happy with their privacy being invaded because they want to see ads related to products they would buy. I also enjoy shopping. It's fun. I don't like ads, though.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've literally just signed up because of the Reddit policy changes killing off third-party apps, and I'm already confused by some of the conversations on here about the "fediverse" and some stuff about Threads and EEE (whatever that is).

I'm just like, I wanted an alternative to Reddit, what the hell is all this? 😂 Even signing up to this was confusing and I consider myself more tech-savvy than most. I think the process needs to be made simpler to encourage more ex-redditors to sign up.

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[–] ugh@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I was ready to argue that we're not all older, but apparently I'm in that category. I'm not very tech literate or use Linux, though.

I think someone else got it right. Younger people didn't live through dial-up and the old internet. They grew up with polished apps and fast loading websites. They're used to convenience.

It can be intimidating to join the fediverse. I was intimidated and still a bit confused. It's not something I'm familiar with in the slightest. I'm not scared of challenging myself to learn something new in tech, though, because of the generation I was born into. We grew up experimenting with the crunchy internet and awkward technology.

[–] jere344@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As long as it has enough shitpost it will attract young people. We need to shitpost more.

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[–] randomdude567@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. Especially on Mastodon, a poll showed nearly half of the site was above 40 and 3 percent were under 18. Most of the content is people talking about the site itself, especially on lemmy. I've felt pretty isolated as a minor on the sites.

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

27yo tech enthusiast and worker and linux user here

[–] jerdle_lemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  1. 23, so no.
  2. Enthusiast, yeah, trying to get into tech for a job, but don't have the CS degree they all want.
  3. No, but not by choice. Not running Linux because I buggered my UEFI somehow, and so it won't allow me to boot from USB or switch to my Linux partition.

I think it's because early Millennials are near the peak of techiness, and the sort of person to switch to an open-source, decentralised, somewhat anti-commercial website is also the sort of person to use Linux. I'm early Gen Z, but fit the other two categories.

[–] potkulautapaprika@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago
[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I fit the description. I like it, the regular social media life drains me.

Eli5...How can I get into mastadon? I just signed up for Lemmy. Can I download any mastadon app and just log in and use it?

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[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I started back in the Wild West BBS days on the 80s; graduated to USENET in the 90s, website forums in the Web 1.0 days, /., Reddit, and now Lemmy. Yeah, I’ve been around. Been “Yaztromo” all that time too.

I don’t mind that “Eternal September” hasn’t infected this space yet — that’s a feature, not a bug!

[–] Kaleunt17@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I do not think that it is complicated to join or use.

But many do not care about privacy and centralization and hence will not leave mainstream platforms. Also the network effect is strong.

[–] Razzmadazz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

What you calling me out like this for?

[–] TooLazyDidntName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] investorsexchange@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I see it as a win. These are my people.

[–] Sandakada@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Reddit began in a similar fashion, so its a positive trait for sure

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

All true for me... except I haven't booted into my Linux install in literal months.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's also used by loads of tankies

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[–] Guster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Im below 30 guess im young then 😅

[–] xyzinferno@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

21 yo software dev here, so not quite older, but I'd say I fit the tech nerd bill lmao

While a lot of people are conscious about the software they use, I think being involved in tech, either as a hobby or career, ups the chance that a person will care about things like user privacy, how an app is run, algorithms that might manipulate the user, or even how technologically literate the rest of the community is

And that isn't to be condescending towards people who are more apathetic about it. It's like how a doctor might be more behooved to eat healthy; when you've seen and studied what can go wrong, you're more compelled to avoid it

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