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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

One of the most interesting things I noticed about the fediverse is that while I disagree very heartily on politics with a number of people I rarely disagree with them on everything, even most things really. There's few enough users that you're going to see people you have tagged, after they've said crazy or insane shit, who then go on to make points you agree with 100%. It's very odd. I guess it's why the fediverse feels more genuine to me.

Maybe the other place was just more absolute bots trying to push specific agendas. Cause it seemed way different there.

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have had a very similar observation based on a feature of Voyager that shows you the total upvotes you have given a user, net of downvotes, next to their name.

In addition to what you observe, I’ve also saved myself from being too dismissive or reading a comment more carefully based on that number at least being an indication that I’ve had good interactions with this person in the past.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ooooh that's a neat metric to help! I've been using an ever expanding system of notes but it's much more labour intensive than that!

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have multiple accounts, which most of us probably do for stability reasons, it also aggregates everything across them so vote counts and user tags still show up on brand new accounts.

It’s very very nice.

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[–] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

But some just go to such an extreme I find it difficult to not have the insults that were hurled at me in the back of my head, even on takes where I do agree with them. Like, yeah, I agree with you, but you did call me an imperial pig and a fascist so fuck you anyway.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

NEW USER: "I came to Lemmy because Reddit permabanned me for saying puppies and kittens are cute."

Then I find myself looking at their comment/post history because that doesn't really sound like a normal thing anybody would get banned for. And after seeing what they post/comment here, I think to myself "I disagree with permabanning people, but I think I understand why it might've been done."

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ahahaha, yeah I'm instantly a little suspicious when someone says they got permabanned for "nothing, absolutely nothing!"

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was once permabanned on a couple of subreddits I had never visited before because I had commented on a thread in a sub they apparently didn't like. It was called Kotaku and I had never heard of it before. Just saw a movie thread and commented because I love movies. The thing I hated the most about reddit was the expectation that everybody were as terminally online as the mods were. Not my fault a sub pops up in my feed and I decide to comment on the topic.

Was likewise permabanned from the true childfree subreddit for making a post where I wanted to talk to people about the thoughts and doubts that comes with being childfree. I was going through some things at the time and just wanted to talk to likeminded people. Permabanned for "trolling".

And finally was permabanned for racism on a sub where the topic was the little mermaid remake and I mentioned that I thought Halle Bailey deserved better than to work for Disney. Had followed her and her sister's youtube channel on/off since 2014 and really liked their voices and I didn't want a young artist to be chewed up and spit out by one of the worst entertainment companies ever. I still love her and Chloe's cover of Say Something and think it is better than the original.

So yeah, sometimes you get permabanned for literally no reason or a made up reason. I had no sad feelings when I left reddit. I absolutely hated the mods on most subs. None of them seemed to have lived in the real world for years.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Until you get your IP permabanned site-wide, those are just trivial anecdotes

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Just admit you got permabanned for saying we should normalize punching nazis, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's why we're all here.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I got permabanned from instances because I hurt a snowflake admins feelings by arguing against them.

shit made my day because I was still able to call them idiots, just not on their instance.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

not just disagree, disagree SLIGHTLY YOU DIRTY FUCKERS WHY ARE YOU NOT MY POLITICAL MIRROR

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most of my friends don’t share the exact beliefs I do in regards to pretty much anything, doesn’t mean we can’t get together and yell at each other about it over a few beers around the campfire.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Oh absolutely. Heck, a good number of my friends are conservative.

I think maybe a lot of the nuance and consideration doesn't translate well to strangers online, so instead of seeking to understand we flip to fighting and without the context of a good friendship, we don't really know how to navigate those arguments online.

(Also, we don't have that filter of "oh, just don't get into X with Janet, you know she'll start yelling" for folks. Sp double whammy.)

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I hate Trump but think democrats are the only party that are in a position to save us from him.

Thoughts?

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

I think on the Left we're our own worst enemy. Our far Left folks want to reject everything when it's imperfect/centrist etc whereas thr Far Right seem fine working with government etc and end up advancing their aims.

Personally, I'm also not sure how widely embraced our more socialist tendencies would get us. In a pretty Left leaning city like NY, Mamdami ran pretty much as our wet dream candidate and still couldn't hit 50% of the votes. And I think that our inability to see that a majority of the country may not agree with us really skews our perceptions.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always say that if leftists could ever learn the lesson "perfect is the enemy of good" then we could actually radically change the world.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my more conspiratorial moments, I do wonder if part of the point of social media was to keep us infighting so hard on incredibly niche issues.

If I were rich and in charge, I would be on my knees thanking heavens that of all the things the Left and Right are fighting over, transgender sports is a bizzarely major issue instead of, yknow, almost anything else that would seriously change things.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

With you 100%. The way niche (note I didn't say unimportant, keyboard warriors) issues are propped up as focal points in political discourse has all the markings of manipulated discourse, imo.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Right? In what rational universe is "some people got angry on twitter" a legit angle to a news story unless your point is to prop up aforementioned keyboard warriors.

I disagree with political parties entirely. We must unite and fight, but I guess we gotta start somewhere, and that may be with the Democrats.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, but only because the media is so tightly controlled by the ruling class.

If a new media platform broke out that they did not have control over, and a reasonable left third party took control of that platform, and many people ran to it, basically if, you know, you could win the lottery twice while being struck by lightning and getting hit by a falling meteorite, then a third party could actually emerge and win.

But with them owning Twitter and Facebook and Reddit and Instagram and WhatsApp and every single news station on the planet, there's just no way to communicate what the world could be like to the people who would vote for the better world.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Whatever your side is, it's the wrong one.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

A friend of mine designed this for me to reflect my taste in politics. I've had them made into stickers 💚

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the battle of underinformed takes! what's not to like?

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn't that what the internet is for?

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My experience on Lemmy as very milque toast center left person has been pretty horrible so far, ngl. I hadn't even been here two weeks before I had to block most instances and several insane users who accused me of being a fascist for having the most normal, basic bitch takes. Something as simple as "I'm looking for non political instances because all this angry politics is exhausting and it is bleeding into everything on here" is apparently fascism.

The rest of Lemmy blocked me for transphobia because I suggested that trans men and trans women have their own categories in professional sports in order to make it more equal and safe for everybody.

I'm really only still here because I like the Danish feddit and enjoy popping in on the ADHD meme forum to chat with likeminded chaotics.

The rest of this whole network of forums feels like I'm walking on even more eggshells than I did the on reddit.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rest of lemmy blocked you for transphobia because you shared transphobic views, views that are not based in reality. If you are going to suggest something which concerns the treatment and rights of a group which is currently being oppressed and targeted worldwide, please ensure that you are doing so based on facts rather than vibes.

I can empathise with wanting to disengage from political discourse from time to time.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I fully disagree with you there on my views being transphobic. If so, then the bar is in hell for what should and shouldn’t be considered transphobia. I reserve such term for actual oppression and hatred of a group where the hater actively wants to remove their ability to partake in society. It’s also not sexist to not have men and women box each other in a boxing ring, but instead keep them separated for safety and fairness.

I don’t mind disagreeing with people on different issues, but I resent whenever someone throws a label on their opponent instead of trying to talk about the issue in good faith. The rhetoric you use is a good example of why people can’t talk about anything with one another anymore without extremism being brought into it. It’s unproductive, fuels division among people who are otherwise likeminded and it creates echo chambers where no one ever has their views challenged. That is not the way if we want a normal and balanced society where everybody can talk with one another in good faith.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Separating men and women in certain physical sports for safety and fairness is founded in reality and fact. Separating transgender women from cisgender women has no such foundation, and in fact the research directly disagrees with it. There is a minor difference between cisgender men and transgender men in terms of physical performance.

Your views are transphobic because you share and propagate disinformation about transgender people while, if this conversation is anything to go by, willingly choosing not to educate yourself on what the facts are.

Me pointing out that you are factually incorrect is not "unproductive" unless you as an individual refuse to educate yourself on what the facts are. I didn't call you a transphobe, I never said anything about you. I never labelled you. I told you that you were wrong. Perhaps you should look inward if you consider it "echo chambery" and "extremism" when you are told by a transgender woman that you are sharing harmful views about transgender people.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Christ, I'm going to regret this but...

Separating men and women in certain physical sports for safety and fairness is founded in reality and fact. Separating transgender women from cisgender women has no such foundation, and in fact the research directly disagrees with it. There is a minor difference between cisgender men and transgender men in terms of physical performance.

This argument is self defeating. Unless you're going to insist every transgender athlete be some arbitrary distance along their transition etc, this is nonsense. Plenty of transgender folks aren't using hormones etc yet, heck I play with one.

If we agree on a)

Separating men and women in certain physical sports for safety and fairness is founded in reality and fact.

And that b) it is in fact hormones etc are what changes the strength

And c) that trans women are not compelled to have hormones therapy or surgery until/if they are ready, then unless you are going to demand a minimum amount of hormones or time (which, hey, maybe that's the quiet part of our policy) this is a nonsense argument.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty much this. People with center left views are attacked viscously and called fascists.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago

That and also being agnostic, which I am as well. Holy shit the hatred both religious and atheist people have for the agnostics. Religion and politics really pushed me far away from most ideologies where groupthink is required for you to be accepted and total intellectual obedience is a demand. I have seen a bit of everything at this point in my life and I don’t want to be anywhere near groups like that.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love how people popped up to confirm your point.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Happens everytime. I will say, though, that the people criticizing my comments here are pretty chill and normal compared to some of the batshit insanity I was met with early on when I joined Lemmy. So if anything, this is an improvement.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meh, I don't do politics as a joke or as a hobby. I do it because its serious shit that effects peoples lives. And I arrive at my conclusions based of solid evidence, and am willing to change my views to better fit existing evidence. So, that being said....

yeah, if you disagree with me majorly, you are instantly a piece of shit. I am always exclusively pro humanitarian and anti capitalist. If you are arguing against me, you are arguing against human rights and you are arguing for exploitation, and I will not and should not tolerate that. Dont be a piece of shit and i wont treat you you like one, my policies are what they are for a reason and if id seen a better policy then IT would be my policy instead.

Tl;dr Basically, we all have access to the internet. I am educated. You("some person", not actually you) are evidently not. Why would you come into a comment thread and knowingly start spreading false information about something you know nothing about?

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Humans are born uninformed and the monkey part of our brains tells us that we are right and there is no deeper layer to "obvious" things. I'm just as mad when peoples default state is confidently incorrect but I try not to say anything mean, because hey maybe that was me at some point.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago
[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I mean yes, you're welcome to visit my home unless you're a hateful piece of shit.

You're welcome to visit the bar unless you come in acting like a belligerent asshole.

You're implying some contradiction as if this isn't how this has always worked.

A welcoming person does not welcome Nazis into a space where people are welcome.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My only problem are the authoritarian types, namely tankies and fascists. Anyone who are pro-democracy are okay in my book.

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean this with all kindness but the fact that nobody has banned you is probably the reason the fediverse won't catch on.

What's the point of avoiding corporate social media if the human powered kind is adopting their same tolerance for toxicity.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

Politics is always the great divider, but on Reddit it was enough to get a full pile-on going to the point that the human was lost and the only thing that mattered was winning the point.

Here? Yeah you get pile-ons, but markedly less so, and it's easier to not take personally 10 people disagreeing with you instead of 100. Perhaps this will change with time as Lemmy gets more popular

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oooof, I'm going to hope that's based in general on the meme!

If that is based on past experience, happy to learn more etc. I generally try to act as a reasonably conscientious fedizen, and basically try to stay in my own lane (though my lane does include memes etc I make...)

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol yes based on the meme!

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