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I was raised to address strangers and those I wish to show social deference to as "Sir" or "Ma'am". It's a difficult habit to break, as it is deeply engrained.

What is an equivalent gender neutral honorific that is relatively common in English? If I can't break the habit I'd rather have a substitute word to use instead of an awkward pause in the middle of addressing someone

I'd just use Google to ask but I'd rather ask the people directly rather than an AI generated answer based off of Reddit threads

ETA: I suppose if Yessir and Yes'm work, Yesn't could too? Mostly joking… but maybe… 🤔

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Avoid honorifics with "there" (e.g. hello, sir - > hello there) or drop. Otherwise use boss, friend, chief or captain depending on vibes.

[–] Drunkdos@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago
[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 week ago (6 children)

FWIW, Sir is gender neutral in the military — this came up in Star Trek Voyager, anyway. Basically if your senior officer isn’t male, they’re sir until they tell you otherwise.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FWIW, Sir is not gender neutral in Gamestop.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Sir is gender neutral in fictional militaries. Every woman holding a commission I ever encountered was ma'am. Didn't matter the country.

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[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Sir hasn’t been gender neutral in my military for like 30 years at least

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not sure what military you served in, but the one I served in definitely didn’t call women sir until instructed otherwise. However, “mister” may be correct for all warrant officers.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I served in the US Air Force. Everyone was "Sir" or "Ma'am" and it was very gender-specific. Even for the few years we allowed transgender folks to serve (before Trump banned them), you referred to them by their preferred transition title.

We don't have warrant officers in the Air Force, so I can't speak to their title of address.

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[–] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (11 children)
[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've seen enough posts related to etymology or historical use of words where they, either misrepresent the facts to fit a narrative or just make shit up, that I try to look it up my self. I also find etymology fascinating so that helps.

In this case they are absolutely right.

Both Mr and. Mrs,ms are derived from master and mistress (teachers) and both of those words stem from the Latin word Magister.

Edit: fun fact the English verb stick is the same word as the noun stick and comes from the same origin the Germanic word stik which also meant a piece of wood and to pierce/adhere or sharp. But wait it's older than that the Latin word stigare also means pierce. And share the same ancestry, namely indo-european. Turns out we humans have been talking about sticks for a long time.

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[–] CptHacke@piefed.social 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having worked in the retail sector for some time, I quickly learned that appearances are often deceiving after a few embarrassing blunders on my part. I taught myself to call everyone 'my friend'. I had no more problems after that.

[–] meejle@piefed.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Also if you have to hand someone off to another colleague, I find you can just use "we", and it still feels polite. At least compared to calling them "the customer" (clumsy) or "they" (weird, when they're right next to you). 😃

"So, we're looking for [product], and we need it to be [thing]. Oh, and we have a budget of £25."

[–] CptHacke@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

Yes, I've done this, as well. It definitely works.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I was raised in southern hospitality, so I know exactly what you’re going through.

I just stopped using pronouns altogether.

“Excuse me” “Thank you” “I appreciate you” “Do you know the way to San Jose”

Turns out 99% of interactions don’t depend on what genitals a person’s rocking. I guess if you’re asked to identify a suspect in a crime it might help? Point being, stop focusing on their crotch and what they’re doing with it 😁 you’ve been trained to be weird about it.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I just stopped using pronouns altogether.

“Excuse me” “Thank you” “I appreciate you” “Do you know the way to San Jose”

ALL of these have pronouns. At least one of them has multiple pronouns! Haha

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Some of my friends use "yes them" jokingly to replace yes sir/yes ma'am. Certainly not correct in any grammatical way, but it does flow well enough and is kindof funny as long as the person being addressed doesnt mind.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Personally, I like "Sir" as in the Star Trek/Orville usage. It did happy things to my brain when the crew on the Orville referred to Commander Kelly Grayson (a cis woman) as "Sir", respectfully referring to her by her proper title as a commanding officer. That was cool. I like the gender neutral "Sir" a lot.

But for casual usage, "Friend" or "Neighbor" is nice. "Hey, neighbor, you dropped this." "Excuse me, friend, lemme reach around you here."

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[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This one bugs me a bit. I’m sure it’s said with good intentions, but I have a client who calls everyone on my team “friend” whether or not she knows us, and it always rubs me the wrong way. We’re not friends, she’s the client in a professional setting, and she has never shown any interest in getting to know me enough to actually call me “friend” and have it mean something, so it always comes across as superficial and unnaturally folksy.

As someone who doesn’t have a ton of deep friendships, the ones I do have matter a lot to me, which means I don’t like to throw around the word “friend” lightly.

Could just be my own emotional hangups though.

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[–] SuperPengato@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 1 week ago

I just call everyone "comrade".

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Ok so reading the comments, from Appalachia, and I didn't see it about anyone specific.

So the reason why nothing seems correct is because nothing new will have the same level of cultural history. If you're trying to show social deference to people things like "friend" or "pal" won't work, and "chief" sounds too informal.

You can still use "sir" and "ma'am" under most circumstances, so the question is more about your circumstances.

Are you trying to find something that replaces those honorifics all together, or do you want a backup third option in case someone says they are non binary?

Are you still in the same culture, or have you moved to a culture that doesn't emphasize honorifics like you were raised with?

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[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ran into that problem with my enby friend. Specifically in the jokey context, like when a friend asks you to do something and you say “Yes Sir!” Or “Yes Ma’am!” in a kind of over the top way. They hadn’t really thought about it either and they were flummoxed too. We wound up with “Yes Colonel!”

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've asked people to call me 'it'. Hasn't happened yet.

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