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[–] TinyBreak@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The thing about Friendlyjordies is, i don’t care if he is right (he often is) or if i agree with him (again, i often do), he is just so bloody condescending and smug that i don’t care what point he is trying to make.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree it's a tough watch - it's just not to my taste. But sometimes the topics he covers deserve the attention. Sometimes they're barely covered or not even covered anywhere else...

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is why I don't watch him. He's always so obnoxious

[–] TinyBreak@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago

somewhat easy to understand if you think you are the smartest person in the room, or if you see things that other people dont. But it aint convincing anyone of the argument if he is just kind of a prick about it.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Now that we've got a Labor government, Jordies is irrelevant - he's all about Labor, not good policy.

There's not much difference when the Libs are in power, but he's gone back to sub-par comedy content, drama baiting and disingenuous attacks on The Greens because he won't attack Labor and the LNP don't have the power to pull off their usual bullshit.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say he's irrelevant, he has criticised Labor's support of AUKUS and his coverage of war crimes as in this video is important. Especially with the upcoming trial of a war crimes whistleblower

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is very true, and I hope its a continued focus for him - it's the kind of important, underreported story he's done a great job with in the past.

This kind of content seems to be a vanishingly small portion of what he does these days - which is my issue.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

its more we enjoy a good bit of liberal bashing porn which isn't on tap anymore

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

While true, the Liberal party bashing is just a component of what I valued from him - high quality journalism that holds the government to account in a way that other outlets don't, while bringing a diversity of tactics to bring new people over.

We don't need another Isaac Butterfield, and I'm saddened to see the drop-off in high-value content.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What would he attack Labor on?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The ineffective HAFF for one rather than mounting an empassioned, but weak defence of it. Maybe their soft response bordering on active support of the Palestinian genocide?

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

HAFF won't be ineffective for the very few people it will help. The problem Labor has is its a fire extinguisher in a bush fire.

Its actually a great line of attack for Jordies , because theres lots the Labor government could do, lots of information out there, and the only people running the conversation at the moment are industry hacks pushing the government to give them an easy pay day. Jordies could be a voice in opposition to the property development industry. He doesn't attack his beloved Labor directly, but he gets the message across that theres other options not currently being considered. And there'd be months of content for him on this subject, and new subscribers. Its a win-win!

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly this - the HAFF is probably a net positive (it's possible the token effort will distract from a more meaningful solution), but as you identified, it's woefully inadequate - and that's my point. Shanks isn't pointing this out and asking for more - he's saying its beyond reproach, and that you're a piece of shit for pointing out its inadequacy.

As I said, he's a Labor guy, so he won't call for better from them, sadly.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hold out hope a part of the party will see the electoral risk for Labor if they aren't seen to actually be fixing the situation. Their voter base is younger, they have less party allegiance and will switch to a perceived better option. I think shanks could be a good avenue to deliver this message to Labor leadership as well as the voters.

On his defense of the HAFF it is totally over-cooked. I liked Swollen Pickles take down of Jordies, he delivered a lot of salient points that have been lost to more media than just shanks. For instance, the shaky eveidentiary basis for the claim rent controls are always and in every case lead to the poorer of outcomes.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Labor will increasingly be flanked of their left as the comparatively progressive kids reach voting age and we use preferential voting. Unfortunately, we've already seen a string of pretty baseless attacks on The Greens by Jordies, which will likely only escalate in response thanks to his partisanship.

Swollen pickles has been great (though I prefer their original format, personally), I'm also a fan of TomTanuki, and for us stuff, another Jordies target - Vaush is pretty good when not rolling around in drama bullshit.

Well, not necessarily only from the left. I wonder, as Labor settles as a known quantity and the inevitable disillusionment occurs, whether people will be arrested by the self gratifying arguments the Liberals constantly deploy. I see Australia as less tied to a single organisation than ever before but just as self interested as we've always been.

Ooh cool, i'll have to check these other youtubers out!

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Terrible handing of the cost of living crisis. Electricity, food, houses. Pick any.

Not improving the housing market in fact making the housing market significantly worse with an immigration policy with NO FUCKING HOMES.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Greens deserve it and more

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Care to expand on that?