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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Walkable in the USA usually means premium exploitation. Like some developer owner that uses all the surrounding businesses like extortion. Everything in the area is 10-20% more expensive. So you still have to drive the same amount of distance for free market competitive prices, only now there is 10× the potential for an asshole neighbor. Plus, all homes in the USA are made of toothpicks and trash, so you are going to hear 10× the neighbor noise too. There is no middle ground. It is toothpicks and trash or "oh, some rich guy" pricing.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Huge differences in response based on demographics. The article goes into it more in detail. For instance:

Among urban, suburban and rural residents alike, Republicans are consistently more likely than Democrats to want to live somewhere with houses that are larger and more spread out. For example: 84% of rural Republicans and 51% of rural Democrats prefer this. 55% of urban Republicans and 30% of urban Democrats say the same.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Every apartment I have ever lived in has been akin to hell on earth. Loud, unruly neighbors. Unwalkable area. So far away from amenities it takes 15 minutes of driving to get anything. No shade. Bad smells.

Its no wonder. There's a few awesome neighborhoods i would love to move to, with great walkable street, groceries, books, restaurants all only a few minutes of walking away. I would love to move to those places but they are so expensive I could never dream of it.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I would rather live in a big house in a more walking and mass transit based community.

Is it possible. We even have the stores in walking distance... If they were made to be walkable.

We're starting, on a very small scale. New, trendy communities are usually 5 over 1s, and they're learning to put the parking in the back, with small walkable streets in the front.

The mass transit part is key though, and that's very, very lacking.

[–] smeg 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most people prefer what they're already familiar with, especially when they've never experienced anything different.

Not much of a revelation.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't necessarily want a big house but I do want space for a workshop where I can build/fix furniture and such and a garden where I can sit outside and chill by myself. I don't see how I could have those things living in an apartment.

Moot point though. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a house. Let alone a nice one.

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[–] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

54% of Americans read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level.

I bet there's a lot of overlap between these two groups.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

I prefer a 80m2 apartment in a walking/public transport based community tyvm.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Have you met people?

I'll do almost anything to keep my distance.

[–] teft@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Because most americans see a large house and car as status symbols.

That's because geographic isolation is the situation they grew up in. They haven't experienced the alternative.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago

Most americans declare strong preferences based on tribal affiliation with no consideration and less knowledge.

What most americans say they want means not a single fuck about anything, least of all what would please most americans.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would guess that many people have never lived in a good, dense, location. My parents would vote for farther apart, but when they think of the city they think of The Warriors

It'd be interesting to poll only people who have lived in a variety of places.

I grew up in a car-focused suburb and never want to go back.

Yeah the very idea of a non-car based community is so far removed from most Americans’ brains that they think they’d have to walk 10 miles through snow or ride “dangerous, unpredictable public transit” just to get groceries. I happen to live somewhere with a nice little “downtown ish” area. There’s just one line of blocks that’s got most everything you’d need: grocery store, post office, library, some restaurants/bars. My only complain is that there’s only like 2 or 3 little apartment complexes within a 10 min walk. Everything else is houses

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

No shit. House size is a huge deal.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don't understand it. Good public transit, a townhouse of an appropriate size, and most of what I need in walking distance would be amazing. Yeah I may still want a car, but I'd have to seriously ask myself if it's worth the cost

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I never go downtown unless I have to, the traffic is terrible.

The people who live downtown want to make it easier to walk places? Fucking commies!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, people love large lots so much that -- checks notes -- government has to force them to exist via minimum lot size laws? 🤔

Surely, if they were that popular, people would freely choose to plat them that way without coercion...

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Don’t know any different. Hollywood is a hell of a drug.

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