Take notes systemd
this post was submitted on 22 Mar 2026
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That was a breach in policy, btw.
What do you mean? Systemd maintainers merged the PR and the founder blocked the revert. They have obviously some hidden agenda about this.
Complying with fascist laws is barely a “hidden” agenda in the NaziMerica.
At the least other inits have begun resisting these Nazi laws.
I was trying Artix with openrc yesterday in case I want to migrate
You are extremely welcome to journal your exploration in our community.
I was just point out there’s nothing hidden with Nazis acting Nazi. Everyone in SlopD is a Nazi.
Every thinkpad in my household is gonna use that!
when did systemd add or say they plan to add age verification?
Yeah there was some drama about it.
https://www.sambent.com/the-engineer-who-tried-to-put-age-verification-into-linux-5/
This blog explains the situation but also attacks the developer that did it and I do not think he is to blame here.
that isnt age verification though, it is not verifying the age; its just asking the user to input their age, something websites and apps have been doing for ages
That's the first step to it. SystemD doesn't need to store any private data like that. Like most changes, if it's done in stages, instead of all at once. It's much harder to revert...
Yeah fair
Nice to see principled devs!
For completeness here goes the best steelman against GrapheneOS' abstention I could summarize. Am I missing any other considerations because this is not strong:
Despite age verification laws empirically not working (VPN use just skyrockets), Rawls would argue that civil disobedience requires visibility and the acceptance of associated consequences. Anonymously non-complying against a democratically enacted US law lacks this structure. This makes it more akin to evasion, which doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong, it just weakens its high ground status.
I don't live in an area under the jurisdiction of any of these laws.
Despite this, were I on stock android, I would probably need to have the means for services I use to gather more information about me, regardless of my consent to their collection. Additionally, I am legally an adult, as is everyone in my household; we have no intention of having anyone in our household under the age of 18.
Graphene OS offering a way for me to not need to comply with a law I am not governed by. Any safety argument would not apply to us even if we were governed by any such law.
With all that, I fully support such actions by OS providers.
It's not a requirement in their jurisdiction, right?