Italy and France are the worst. They LOVE their protectionists pretentious screeching about how you're enjoying life wrong.
Japan was very cool with the hybrid food and traditions.
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Japan loves to make hybrid food and I love seeing them!
Because of the fact that immigrants from Naples, the city state, came to the US in the mid to late 1800s, it is entirely probable that American Pizza predates the country of Italy.
It does, the modern Italian Republic was created after WW2 from the territory of the Kingdom of Italy.
But the Kingdom of Italy was also the country of Italy?
So when the entire style of government and bureaucracy is dissolved you think the country continues?
I think you don't know the difference between a country and the social construct that is known as a nation.
So when the entire style of government and bureaucracy is dissolved you think the country continues?
Yes, normally as long as there is legal continuity, countries retain their identity through changes of systems of government.
For example today's Germany is generally considered to be the same country as the North German confederation founded in the 19th century.
Likewise the end of communism in Eastern Europe didn't cause Bulgaria, Poland, or Hungary to cease existing, just change their form of government.
Once again, you don't understand the difference between a country and a nation.
How are you defining them?
Hmm, they can be pretty nebulous concepts but in the political sense at hand in terms of continuity of governance countries are the political state and can be destroyed or dismantled. Nations are the people and cultures they comprise. Under different circumstances, for example a peaceful constitutional reform you could certain argue Italy was the same country but in addition to losing large amounts of territory there was a whole "invasion and civil war that the previous government decisively lost" thing. If anything you would argue that for a time there were two countries of Italy and the one that hated fascists won, but that wasn't the country known as the Kingdom of Italy.
Under nationalist reckoning you could have a country actually comprised of multiple nations, for example look at Czechoslovakia. Nationalists would argue that their split was an inevitable consequence of trying to force two nations to form a country together.
Is the Czech Republic to your mind the same country as Czechoslovakia? By the apparent standards being argued it has the old capital, nearly 75% of the population, and the same bureaucracy that was running everything in Czechoslovakia, it just lost a bunch of rural territory. Losing territory alone certainly doesn't stop a country from being the same country after all, so why is the Czech Republic not the same country as Czechoslovakia under a different name and governmental standard?
I think Japanese would be mildly amused and try it. Mac and cheese is certainly at least somewhat known here and I don't think most would even consider that sushi; just weird, room-temp cheesey macaroni salad wrapped in seaweed.
This seems like something you'd find in Hawaii
Spam musubi is one thing.
Putting this on the same level as spam musubi is an insult to spam musubi.
When I was in Hawaii I went to a "barbecue" place that served general tso's chicken with a side of green beans, mac & cheese, and mashed potatoes. There was no pork or barbecue sauce.
I'm Italian and I would try this. Also, fudge those "purists" of Italian food: every family has it's own recipe for everything different from their neighbors', there's no or little historical documents about dishes still served and most "based" Italian food was invented by Italian emigrants coming back home with inspiration from where they were.
Cuisine is mixing and experimenting, tradition is the death of good food.
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My Italian coworker at my old job was a big fan of pineapple on pizza. The ones who screech the loudest about people "doing it wrong" are normally a minority and suffer from insecurity and lack of knowledge.
I hate this food gatekeeping.
This is REAL food, enjoyed by REAL food enjoyers:
I want them all
That spam pizza has to be from okinawa 😂
Also, no kitkat pizza? :O
Wait. Italians claim Mac and cheese?
I always thought it was an American thing. Because Americans love pouring cheese over everything.
No, the part about Thomas Jefferson is accurate, but his chef thought it was a take on French cuisine. Turns out it's descended from English casseroles.
The chef was also his half-brother in-law, and the brother of Tommy's teenage mistress
Thomas Jefferson was obsessed with Macaroni, and created the dish that modern day mac and cheese is based on. He served it at a ton of White House dinners. He also was the person responsible for shipping macaroni extruding machines from Italy to the US while he was a diplomat over there.
I think pasta is the victim here which still doesn't really track perfectly but it's a start lol
Pasta comes from China. Fuck what Italy thinks about it.
I'm well aware but its at least closer than mac n cheese
i think it originally comes from Scotland.
Fun fact: Canadians actually eat 55% more boxes of Kraft dinner (mac & cheese) per capita than US. We love that shit for some reason (well, I know why actually it's cause it's delicious).
I mean... I've actually seen this exact thing served as street food in Japan, so I don't think they are that upset about it.
Italians: Macaroni? Never meet the guy.
French: Non, c'est pas nous. And, ah, stop suggesting it iz oos.
English: Mate, cheddar 'n' butter mixed into pasta's onna da finest fings we ever doone. This is our proudest moment :''3
Japanese: Accurate.
I thought the japanese dude was a dog.
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looks ptetty yummers ^_^
Put it in a tortilla instead and you might be onto something
No
Add a tortilla wrap
Mac'n'sushi
Okay but as a stoned mexican, that shit is looking real good about now
Pasta la vista, baby.
Ah, a fusion restaurant
At least the pasta looks cooked...?
KD is Canadian, isn't it?
Seriously, why is one of the things that makes Canadians go "CANADA FUCK YEAAAA" the processed, prepackaged version of a British-invented, American-associated dish, that isn't legally allowed to be called what it's supposed to be in Canada?
Throw some beans on top and get 3.
Mett ontop would save them.
Three I'm American and this makes me want to vomit up everything I've ever eaten in my entire lifetime in one huge gigabarf.