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The worst and most stupid bit is this:

Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are "suffering from this, frankly, more than we are."

He claimed this was because they had "focused on a lot of green energy scams and they're hurting a lot more than we are."

Vance continued:"As much as we've got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they're feeling it far worse than we did because we've taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

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[–] DarthPub@retrofed.com 179 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What's worse is that people actually believe him.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago

he did reaped the popes soul.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It's not like they can pump that oil from their ground.

I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is what I've been saying as well. For ages now. However I was listening to pre election political debate with parties on TV and everybody just kept talking about oil, oil and oil. Nobody even mentioned alternatives or anything else at all. And we even have a prime minister coming straight from electric energy distributor. So I'm not putting too much fate here.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Why are they allies when spoken to and treated like this?

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To him they are not allies his allies are on the Bored of Peace.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a great question that I'm kinda raging about.

I'm Australian. Our fuel prices have increased by almost 50%. Inflation for this year is projected to be 5%.

This is a ridiculous, unnecessary war, serving the interests of a despot we have had no business in supporting.

I imagine that our Prime Minister would say, we were USA allies for 100 years before Trump, and will be for 100 years after he's gone. It's true that our alliance runs deep. The current AUKUS agreement concerns building submarines in partnership over several decades.

However, I'm peeved that our Prime Minister is tip toeing around avoiding saying anything mean about the pedo in chief. Trump has thrown us all under the bus for his own reasons, and absolutely deserves to be called out.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Believe it or not there was a time before Trump.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And some day not too long from now, there will be a time after Trump. He has an insane amount of health conditions, and he's the least popular president in living memory right now.

[–] Cavemanfreak@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago

The question is if that will actually make a difference for the allies. They have shown how unstable they are, and that they are one bad president away from causing chaos for the whole fucking world. I'd hope there will have to be fundamental changes before that sentiment changes.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

For anyone who doesn’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

Didn’t know WaaS was a thing. This timeline is just asS.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Oil prices are pretty global. If you look at the prices for European oil (Brent crude) and US oil (West Texas Intermediate), then they are $14 apart. Which is not nothing, but WTI is still up by 63% from pre-war. That is still going to hurt the US economy, a lot.

Also, in the US the oil price windfall is privatized, while the oil price pain is socialized. So the US will still feel almost the full pain.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He missed his calling. He should be living in a trailer park with a yard full of weeds, broken toys and dog shit, a police record and a restraining order from his ex-wife.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:

He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

It doesn't even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.

In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?

And if JD refers to Germany's over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn't very green anyhow): That's the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a maga Republican is saying something, it's usually the exact opposite of what they are saying that is true. Look it up, this is not a joke.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Yep, give loser MAGA some hope that they’re not the bottom of the barrel they really are.

This all just plays into the kind of people they are. “You’re suffering, but look at how much worse that poor asshole over there is suffering. Don’t you feel great!?”

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago
[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.

This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn't, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word "ally" means? Do any of them know?

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[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male...

Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are 'real men'. And 'real men' don't have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.

Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…

Vance said Trump was "America's Hitler". Before Vance realized that he could get power by supporting Trump.

You seem to be using "he thinks" in the sense "Vance genuinely believes". I am not convinced Vance believes anything, his actions look like pure opportunism.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay, I admit that I’m terrible at human relationships.

But even I know that if you ask someone for help and then gloat over them they’re going to be less likely to help you.

How are these guys this bad at this and still in global office?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How? Look at this generation of voters. Thats how!

They have the most access to information compared to any period of human history, and yet are demonstratably less factually informed and less humanly resourceful than ever before.

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[–] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does it help him when others suffer more? So USA is still suffering, but less? Great for them... 

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's the Republican's whole shtick "Vote for us, we'll make those people you don't like hurt worse than we make you hurt"

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He so perfectly embodies the fascist ethos. You aren’t suffering, as long as others are suffering more.

I can’t tell if he’s incredibly un-American, or very very American.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

That's what allies usually look for, suffering.

[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.

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[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago (10 children)

does he also have a brainworm now or is he just as dumb? Can he explain like in what correlation does the buildout of greenenergy make one more dependent on oil?

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Our infrastructure isn't completely built around cars. We have proper public transportation, walking and cycling infrastructure. The best in the world actually. I don't need gas or oil to cycle. And my electricity is made by windmills and solar panels.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what allies, do the US have any left ?

I drive my BYD EV charged off my solar panels here in Australia or ride my bicycle.

I have no idea what the price of gasoline or diesel is. I am sure I'll see higher prices from freight but we've woefully under invested in electrified rail transport for freight and moving pole around the country so we are finding out after fucking around for decades.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

lol I’d love to hear them explain this green scam stuff

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago

I've heard more than enough of it. They just repeat the same lies over and over

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don't you come help us fix it (at our direction of course)."

Gee, can't guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d....

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wait, so the person who aligned himself with an obese orange painted child rapist and narcissistic pathological liar doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

I think I'm immediately going to go outside and smash up my solar panels, my battery system, and my heatpump. No, scratch that, I'll drive my electric car over everything.
Then I'll go and import a massive Ford F1CUNT mobile and roll moles!!

Or not. It's a tricky one...

I mean, yesterday we ran our entire house for free, charged the car for free, and exported a few quid of electricity back in to the grid...but, yes, oil and gas is definitely better for me and the climate.
Yes, I know not everyone can't do what we've done but the quicker everyone can get away from fossil fuels the better.

So FUCK OFF, COUCH FUCKING PAEDO ENABLER!
I hope you americans will hold this prick to account once the kiddie fiddling nonce finally dies.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago

"allies" are more likely to have renewable power sources than the US...and functional, widespread public transport systems

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Oil / Gas is a global commodity, shipped around the world on tankers. If prices are higher in France, someone will take cheaper oil/gas from the US and ship it to France where they can make more money.

In the short term, maybe the US suffers less. But, in the longer term prices well even out as people will sell wherever they can get the highest profits.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Really Just Dumb? The Allies have something called public transportation and high-speed rail. You fucking moron, you could have used the $200 billion to upgrade the entire Northeast Corridor and turned it into a true high-speed rail system and that is just for starters. In the meantime, piss off and take your AmeriKa Last with you.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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Putin tool applauds common Putin tactic of enshittifying your enemies instead of just being better than them. Enemies, because neoconfederates aren't really able to have allies, just subjects.

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe someone smarter than me can chime in... But isn't petrol a finite resource? Shouldn't we be planning our infrastructure for when it eventually runs dry?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

A complicated question, but in short, yes, it's finite. The amount is actually far more than we could ever use possibly, but the real limitation is accessibility. As we extract and use up the easier to get oil, it costs more to get the harder to get. At some point we won't be able to get to oil that's there, and what we can get will cost so much that usage will be limited.

In some cases we've still extracted from places that had a low or negative ROI, such as tar sands, because at the time investment was persuaded that it would pay off. Then there's the changes that make hard to get places suddenly an opportunity, as the arctic areas might soon be.

We should be changing not because of supply, but because of what the use of oil does. But we haven't changed in the right direction after decades of saying that.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have questions.

What steps did they take? They didn't take any steps.

Who's hurting more? The gas prices in US has increased by 50%. I don't see that anywhere else. This is partially because we already pay a lot more in fixed taxes, so the gas prices alone doesn't cause the same kind of spikes. Of course we still pay more for it as usual, but the current increase of about 10% doesn't hurt us as much as it hurts the Americans.

What green energy scams is he talking about? Green energy works. I wouldn't call it a stable price, as it fluctuates like the wind, but on average I'm paying less for charging my car than I did last year, and I'm expecting the price to drop. It was always cheaper than gas per milage, still is and certainly will be even more so in the future. Big scam huh.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

China and India laid up from investing in green energy like

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