oh well, it was good while it lasted
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2026
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Not a fan of this news. At all.
oh no
OH YEAH!
The tools are open source. Someone needs to fork them before it's too late.
Good luck - uv is under a MIT license, so every fork is just a free buffet for openai to incorporate into their enshittified version of uv. There is a reason the GPL exists and many people will learn this the hard way ...
Your truust in the Law is admirable. OpenAI does not care at all about laws. They do what they want and have an army of lawyers to fight anyone who says differently. Just look at copyright laws.
This is why I am saying do it now. Better safe than sorry.
But, since all l am getting is abuse.... I'm out! Y'all have the say you deserve.
The world does not consist entirely of the US.
While I agree that openai can buy enough "law" in the US to do what it wants, the license is important in other jurisdictions and can be enforced.
alll I see is abuse? I see only one comment under yours (and its pretty reasonalbe from brummbaer) but maybe all the rest are folks I have blocked.
Not here....
the current versions will still be open source, you will always be able to fork them
But with slop in them
It's version controlled.
Theyβve already been using Claude for at least the last few months; youβll find a CLAUDE.md file and related settings in the uv repo if you look
Too late for what exactly? Describe in actual detail.
You said it yourself, it's open source so why are you running from it? The code is and will continue to be there in the open.
OpenAI can change the license at any time. Who's going to stop them?
It can also be forked at any time from the commit prior.
Nope, they can retroactively change it
Commit history literally exists, you can go back to the commit prior to changing the license and fork it. Do you understand git in the slightest?
This does suck, but there's time. I doubt the actual legal hand over has happened yet, and OpenAI is (likely, I don't actually know) an absolute mess, HR/structure-wise, internally. If the aquisitions I've been a part of in the past are any indication, there's a 1-2 year ramp before things really start to go to shit within Astral (assuming there isn't an immediate massive exodous of talent). Or I'm totally wrong!
Is there any example of such move that does not ends with enshittyfication?
Off the top of my head, no. I'm just pointing out that there's time to respond before things get shitty. This isn't Redis rug-pulling their license. The community can be considered. Thoughtful.
uv ---- fork ---> wx
(although zx is easier to type)
Oh look at the fancy qwerty user over here ...
but why would the vibe-coding future that Sam wants to shove up our arses need these tools?
Maybe it's more about access to Rust coders than the Astral existing toolchain.
Bit early for April fools :(
Fuck shit asshole what thr fuck motherfucker why??????? I was starting to like uv :'(
the day was OK before I read this. sooooqa.
Im not suprised (still using using pip) π€£
Guess I'll need another python lsp server. Luckily, I use pacman to handle python packages
I am sceptical, but hopeful. The Codex CLI is open source, so I'm somewhat hopeful it'll stay open source. My only worry is that they'll take too many people off the tools, stalling the development of uv, ruff and ty.
PS: Can we get a pytest alternative? It's so slow :(
I'm not a huge fan of AI companies buying up all the tool chains and trying to insert themselves as the only middleman to coding.
Which feels like what these moves are.
Have zero exposure to Astral. If they were bought out by OpenAI tomorrow, would not notice the difference.
If i were a Rust coder, would have interest. Since i'm not, would be at the mercy of the maintainers.
Saw uv and ruff as a liability. Now? What is uv and ruff. Never heard of it.
Look forward to future discussions on requirement files again. Reintroduce everyone to the -r and -c options. How to put requirements into a hierarchy. How to deal with multiple venv. And how to manage requirement files across multiple packages.