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Almost half of all Americans fear a ‘total economic collapse’ in the next 10 years, new poll shows
(www.independent.co.uk)
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I’m still 90% sure the fucker cheated - hell he even admitted as much right after he ran
Of course he did.
The evidence of Musk knowing the results way before the actual people in charge did clearly is foul play. They even found Musk manipulating votes and the South African immigrant is STILL not behind bars.
They're dismantling voting systems. Not just the machines, but the actual "systems". The people counting, how its counted, what's valid or not, where you can vote, when you can vote, who can vote.
They're sowing doubt at a rapid pace. Every election that they lose is fraud. Every election that they win is not.
They threatened everybody who was honest. They threatened the counters. They threatened judges. They did Jan 6 and killed two cops and harmed many others.
Let's not beat around the bush. Trump cheated. Period.
The entire Republican Party cheated with gerrymandered districts, suppressing voter turnout, voting barriers, etc.
No, that's not how they did it. They only had to change one race in only seven swing states, and he won all of them, a statistical impossibility. In those states, there were MILLIONS of straight Democratic ballots, with Trump at the top. Who does that? Have you EVER met anyone who votes that way? Have you ever seen anyone claim to vote that way on TV? If those people really existed, wouldn't EVERY news org want to put together a panel of those voters and question them? Where are those people?
I'll tell you where they aren't - in non-swing states. Those states had none of those ballots, they were all concentrated in the Swing States.
At the very least, it should have been investigated, but the minute Election Day was over, the Manchurian MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries declared Trump's win "fair & square." That would make it the first time in his life that he didn't cheat, and it stretches all plausibility that the ONE time he didn't cheat, and played it "fair & square," is the one race he needed to win to keep from going to prison for the rest of his life. THAT'S the one he decided NOT to cheat on?
C'mon, wake up your Critical Thinking Skills, and ask yourself if ANY of this makes sense.
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If he didn’t actually cheat he absolutely openly tried. Fake electors, calling State governors looking for “a few more votes,” the insurrection at the Capitol, etc.
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10 years? I'm pretty sure 10 months is 50/50 odds at this point...
I have insight to a company that does automotive loans, and the number of people getting offers for 30% APR 84 month 0-down loans (and accepting them) is way too fucking high.
People can't really afford cars. The US government considers domestic car production so important, that we are practically banned from buying "better" cheaper cars made in China. The auto manufacturers know this and are absolutely chowing down in the captive market. The working class is going to lose reliable transportation, at the same time companies (and the government) are pushing to end Work-from-home options, and there is basically 0 public transportation in the US.
So a lot of people aren't going to be able to afford the systemically artificially inflated cars to get to their arbitrarily in-office jobs and they can't reasonably take the systemically hobbled/non-existent bus or train.
Oh, did I mention that we've pissed off and mistreated and deported all of the migrant labor that made fresh food widely available and cheap in the US? Oh, and we also emptied critical agricultural water reserves in a smooth-brain attempt to fight a fire 200 miles away. Don't forget, global shipping and fuel prices are fucked because of a war we decided to start to distract from the fact that the president is practically in the Epstein files more than Epstein himself? So come summer, we're going to have no food because we have no water and no labor, and importing food is going to be even more expensive? And that's before the capricious 100%+ tarrifs the president is slapping on everything via a fucking tweet.
Come on... I don't think I could fuck up running a county this bad if I was actively trying.
You have to be joking, 84 month 30%??
They sell them on the amount someone would pay per payment, tell people for just $400 every other week they too can drive away in their ~~dream~~ functional car/truck.
Its the same idea of the 15 easy payments of $19.99 shit from long ago. Issue is people need a way to work so they justify the cost the same as rent and food (that are also squeezing people).
And just like the subprime crisis in 2007 all it takes is one life event and it all goes off the rails.
Not joking.
I hate how right you are. And half the country is going to cheer it on without even understanding. And when things do go to shit they'll find some minority group to blame it on and their base will eat it up.
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10 years is optimistic
This is why billionaires are building bunkers. They know what's coming, because they're the ones doing it.
If you buy the Dollar Endgame hypothesis, the dollar, which hasn't been backed by gold for over 50 years, will become virtually worthless. But, that will only be the beginning.
If you think the worst thing that can happen in America is a fascist dictatorship, you're wrong. This isn't an America problem, it's a world-wide problem. The entire world economy, currently held together by nothing more than incestuous lies and wishes, will very likely collapse, and not in the distant future.
I'm glad my parents died before they could see this, I'm not looking forward to seeing it myself, and had I any clue about this 30 years ago, I would not have had a child.
Bunker building idiots. Bet they’re selfish as fuck and have nothing but items for their own survival saved up instead of maybe a hoard of books, seeds, tools and the like.
One of two outcomes:
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If you actually truly need the bunker, the world has gone to absolute shit and there will be nothing worth living for except hand-to-mouth subsistence farming. I don’t think anyone has a clue as to what actual collapse would look like. Congrats, you’ll just starve last.
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If you’ve got hundreds of thousands of hungry and starving people and any small percentage know you have a bunker with food and medicine, they will get in or burn you out with fire trying. They literally have nothing else to do and nothing else to lose.
I've often had conversations with preppers, asking them questions, basically asking them if they are ready to ultimately become farmers. Very few seem to have really gamed things out beyond having bullets and some MREs or whatever. That might be helpful in very short-term types of scenarios, I guess?
They say they'd hit the local Costco or grocery store or whatever when they are running low.
LOL, have they even seen what happens when a power outage hits an area even for a few days? Even if one has zero morals applied to anyone outside one's immediate family and start raiding houses and businesses for food - do these people think no one else is going to be doing this? All grocery stores will be cleared out in short order, without question.
SMH.
They really don’t have a clue. They just assume they can take whatever they need by threat or violence and whoever else has guns will be on their side. Plenty of those guns will be aimed at them to take what they have, too.
And then?
Next to none will have a clue about “after.” Civilization is a community full of skilled trades. From the blacksmith to the tanner to the farmer and the miller. Think any of the preppers will be out in the field, day in, day out, planting, harvesting, storing, cutting wood, prepping food for winter? Got any draft animals? Got a place to care for and feed them all winter? How about getting sick or hurt and being unable to work? They ate up this “American Self Reliance” BS with a shovel, and it’s complete trash. Their personal chauvinism will see them just as dead as everyone else.
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Look at the bright side- when it happens, people like you and I can commandeer concrete mixer trucks, load and prep them entirely, and go on an adventure to find all intake/exhaust vents of the billionaire bunkers, seal them shut, and stargaze above them while they asphyxiate. Sure, we'll go soon after, but we'll be able to go out having made new friends, under the stars, knowing we did a good thing.
This is why I started hoarding bottle caps. I will be rich in the wasteland!
I started hoarding bondage gear and leather jackets to outfit my war band. I’m also sitting on a few hundred cans of silver spray paint.
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Next 10 years?
Motherfucker, it is currently ongoing.
Fucking goddamn, Americans are propogandized as fuck.
I think we're in the process of collapsing, not collapsed yet. Bad timing for me, I just landed the best job I've ever had by a wide margin. I've been approaching fight-or-flight mode for a while. Fortunately I'm in California and I haven't been personally affected that much, yet, other than the psychological damage from reading/watching the news.
Don't feel guilty about carving out a nice slice of life for yourself amid the chaos. Congrats on the job.
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Must be infuriating to do a survey on the American public. No matter what you are trying to find out around 50-60% are just going to drool on your survey and maybe draw a phallic symbol with a giant crayon.
I once did a workstudy job where we did data entry of the results of surveys.
The survey clearly said just fill out these bubbles, etc., and that it was basically a multiple choice thing. No comments would end up in the results. Something you would think any idiot would understand.
And yet, you'd sometimes get entire manifestos written in the white spaces between questions, and the margins. I think at the time, OBE (outcome based education) was something that had the conservatives all outraged for whatever reason, because there were several screeds about it.
My coworkers and I got a good laugh out of some of this, that's for sure. The best was when they wrote their screed, mailed it in, and didn't fill out any of the questions. LOL!
And yeah, for all that did, they might as well as got out the crayons and drew a dong on it....
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There have been total economic collapses every 10 years or so for my entire life.
No, there haven't. If you think the dot-com bust or the great recession were bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet!
Well then they should stop calling them “once in a lifetime” and just consider them part of capitalism
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Definitely when the AI bubble pops there will be a financial collapse.
It's propping up basically our entire economy.
That would be just a normal recession. Between fucking with the Fed and basically doing everything possible foreign-policy-wise to destroy the dollar as the world's reserve currency, Trump's policies are capable of being way more disastrous than that. Think Weimar Republic-style, "wheelbarrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread" hyperinflation.
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In 2015, I used to say "A vote for trump is a vote for total system collapse."
Glad to see I was right.
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Today's empires are tomorrow's ashes. This too shall pass. A better world is possible.
Today’s empires are tomorrow’s ashes.
The US goes through recessions roughly every ten years, thanks to credit expansion and contraction. If anything, the next recession has been postponed far longer than expected.
The idea that we're going to be "ashes" in another ten years... the fucking doomer juice has blasted basic American history out of everyone's brains. Go back and live through the Great Recession, then talk to me about End Of Empire. Live through 9/11. Countries don't just stop existing because of a stock market sell-off, ffs.
Upvoted and agreed. But I think the US financial collapse has more to do with:
∙ Short-term incentives — businesses chasing next quarter while ignoring the long game. CEO tenure averages around 7 years, but comp structures reward short-term predictability over long-term health. Make the number go up, cash out, someone else’s problem.
∙ Crushing debt — not “insolvency” in the household sense, since the US prints its own currency, but debt-to-GDP at ~120% and interest payments consuming an increasing share of federal revenue creates real risks: inflation, dollar credibility erosion, and crowding out actual investment.
∙ No savings cushion — ~57% of Americans can’t cover a $1,000 emergency. That’s not a recession risk, that’s a detonator.
Empires don’t fall suddenly — they transform. The Roman Empire never really “ended”; the eastern half ran unbroken from Constantinople for nearly a thousand years after Rome’s western collapse. The threat isn’t a single dramatic crash. It’s a long, slow institutional rot that’s already underway.m
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sure. eventually. The times between empires are not always great.
At least trans people can't use a public john, and dangerous books are being kept out of libraries. That's the important thing. /s
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people be like "we don't hate republicans; we just hate their policies" and i'm like nah fuck that if every elected republican politician died i'd be celebrating.
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MIT stats says it’s less than 10 years. Expects world wide full breakdowns by 2030 due to climate change. You thought the holocaust was bad.
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Don't we always fear this and rightfully so because every 10 years we have an economic meltdown now?
I mean, it keeps happening.
And we have to keep watching Boomers live their best lives while knowing we won't have what they have.
So yeah, the pessimism is warranted.
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Years? Try months. Second year of his first term was when the economy first stumbled.
It's weird that Republicans aren't more fearful given that farmers got crushed last year, and fertilizer prices are skyrocketing this year. Both due to the pedophile.
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Is that how Weeks is spelled now?
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