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And then they wonder why everyone is fixing the hulls of their ships and getting new sails.
Edit: whats family plan these days? 20€/month? My local record shop has new albums for 20€. I'd guess you can find a lot of good stuff on sale for 10€. So might as well buy an album or two per month. In a year you'd already have 12-24 albums. You can make a decent playlist out of those. Do that for a few years and you have a excellent music collection that lasts decades. Spotify is stupid and pointless if you really think about it.
I've been saying that for years. Now I have about 250 albums drm-free on Bandcamp. A good chunk of that money went to the people making the music, too.
I know there are people out there paying a subscription to Spotify who listen to the same dozen albums over and over, too.
1.: I divide the payment of Family across 3 members.
2.: I listen to so many songs individually, it would bankrupt me to buy every single song individually or the full album.
3.: I'll buy an album (2nd hand discogs (so good)/ebay, digitally on wherever or bandcamp). If I don't like the music as much or the buying process is annoying, I'll pirate the song.
So yeah. It depends.
The minute I have ads in my paid subscription it's a cancel
Exactly why I canceled Amazon Prime. 100% would recommend canceling. I don’t miss it.
Likewise. I've been putting off setting up a Soulseek+Navidrome stack on my home server. I'm sure there's a way to integrate ListenBrainz suggestions too. First ad I hear, I'm doing it.
I buy my music from the artists as directly as possible via Band Camp.
Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer.
Just recently signed up for Qobuz. I'm planning on purchasing albums as I go along so at least I'm left with something the day I decide to quit.
Fun fact, there are tools to rip FLAC files of music you stream on qobuz so you can build up your music hoard
I would prefer they just make their apps good.
But it’s kind of bizarre that daily/weekly playlists are only in app.
Deezer was playing ICE recruitment ads last year. I think it's important for people to know so they can make a more informed decision.
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
I don't know if this makes it better or worse.
Worse. It makes it worse.
From HN comments:
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
I posted this when Youtube was doing it by 'mistake' too...
If you are paying to not receive ads, and you receive an ad by mistake, they should pay you whatever they earned on the ad. Now... I doubt they'll actually pay you dollars, but lets say at minimum 1 day of free extended service per ad, but if they earn more than 1 days worth via the ad, then it should be whatever that is.
It's telling of this era that it's impossible to initially know if this is corporate greed or vibe goonery.
So... intentional or unintentional enshittification, I guess. 😬
If I didn't already cancel them, this would make me cancel them again.
I have heard this before from rando Reddit posts where it turns out they were listening to podcasts that just had the ads baked into the broadcast.
They still serve personalized ads in the podcasts. They aren't baked in.
Love hearing about products and services as I'm listening to my podcast about genocides and warcrimes. Mustard gas really gets me in the mood Blue Apron.
Signs your business model has truly failed.
Why do people even use Spotify at this point?
Convenience of instant access to gazillion songs, though i'm not sure if the average spotify user even listens to anything other than top-lists
Sharing and creating playlists with friends. Discovering new music. Endless playlists of high quality for all genres and moods. Family plan is cheap.
It's still been cheaper than the alternatives if you buy for multiple people, and has most of my native country's artists at this point. I'd like to switch, but I'm worried the other services don't offer enough finnish music, and just couple euros more is a lot of money when you are poor.
Of course you could say "don't pay for these if you're poor", but it's the only subscription I'm paying for, and I feel like abandoning every single thing that can still bring me joy is kinda asking for my depression peak so I'm back to trying to hang myself again.
Though the moment I hear adds or the price increases again, I'll obviously switch immediately
Time to switch to Qobuz then. Goodbye Spotify.
I would have to go and download an ad, and then upload it, and then select it from new additions in order to hear an ad on Plexamp.
But the subscription model is the framework for fuckery here.
It wasn’t long ago that subscribing to something, implied a consistent (usually periodical) delivery of actual goods or services that were in some way distinct from the previous periods good or services. Issue #33 is different from #32. March’s soup of the month is different than February’s.
And you could hold issue #33 in one hand and #32 in another hand and directly interact with two months worth of that subscription.
The tech bro idea of innovation is to get two revenue streams from each customer; keep us paying for the same thing over and over but never owning it, and sell our data to advertisers. The fact that they are also showing ads to subscribers is just dripping lemon juice in the paper cut because they can. They were already making money off that data.
Now I have a problem with this statement in a vacuum.
Zero: I am based in Germany. So not as many dystopian laws and decisions as in the USA
First: Yes, Spotify bad, Hooray Jellyfin, ripping CDs and owning the media you have. Also good for the artists.
Second: I had ads played to me. But it only happened on podcasts.
Third: I had talked to the Spotify support: https://imgur.com/a/Ulis7Oe
(TLDR: Podcast publishers (e.g. LTT with their WANshow or Dallas Taylor with 20 Thousand Hertz) can decide if they want to play ads. They happened to me inbetween episodes)
So yeah. Now it would be very interesting what this random person encountered where.
Again? Lol
Just a heads up, Deezer has been working hard to improve their UI a great deal. It is so much less stressful to navigate than Spotify. Sound quality is also better to me. And not being forced to mix music with ad-infused podcasts is so very nice.
I've been using YT music anyway, but I recently started using my Navidrome server by just yt-dlp'ing albums + tag with MusicBrainz picard and boom. A bunch of songs I can own until my server burns down.
I feel a little bad about pirating, but I'm a college student who hasn't even gotten a job yet... But I will be buying merch or music off bandcamp in the future when I know I have the budget for it!
Bandcamp is very nice!
It’s why I cancelled SiriusXM a while back. I’m paying for the service so atop playing ads. And at the time it was like the same ad over and over. God it was infuriating.
Spotify has ads? I've never paid, I thought it just had to take little breaks after some songs because they were harder to play 🤔
Is that confirmed? My whole family use Spotify and we didn’t have such issue..
I can confirm. I have the family plan and got ads when I was listening earlier today. Contacted support. Got no where. Canceled my subscription.
It's a bug, not a change of policy