Apple

The Touch Bar is garbage UX and I stand by that. I don’t want to have to look down at my keyboard EVER.

The way sites like The Verge eulogise garbage features Apple eventually gets rid of is pretty dumb.

The touch bar was a bad idea from the beginning.

I still have the touch bar on the 2019 16” Pro. I love it and don’t want the new models without it

I still love mine on my Pro.

for anyone that doesn't like learning hot keys I highly recommend the app cheat sheet. It's been pretty helpful for pulling up hot keys for me in all kinds of programs *(I'm not connected in any way I'm just trying to be helpful lol)

Either way learning hot keys is obviously the best in software you use day in and out. Takes a few seconds but down the line will wipe hours off your work flow.

Screen shot is a big one. but I just have that mapped to an extra button.

I think the Touch Bar was a novel idea but I see two things that were needed for it to be a success:

1. It could not replace the function keys.

2. It’d have to be on some kind of mechanism that raised it slight at an angle when the Mac opened, perhaps up to a 30 degree angle so that you could use it when you were lower or higher to the keyboard.

Most important thing was #1 though.

She will be back!

I love the Touch Bar but…yeah…it was so underutilized.

But let’s be honest, the escape key was just a ludicrous omission.

Man, the Touch Bar. It still has value for me at work since we work with Keynote and live shows a lot. Being able to jump to any slide that is previewed on the Touch Bar saved some asses in it's short lifetime and for that reason I will miss it. Also when working on the road with the Macbook on your lap was really cool when using the Touch Bar. It had it's uses, however limited they were but I'm kinda sad it's gone.

I actually just purchased a refurbished MacBook on Swappa that has a touch bar and I love it. Didn’t expect that.

i will never miss u. Fuck the touch bar

I didnt bought Macbook because of the No-Touchbar. Those function keys are really cheap and fills more apple’s bank account than touchbar. F*** u apple.

I have a 2018 MacBook Pro and to this day, I can skip almost any ad using the Touch Bar. It's a super power and I love it, no one else seems to know about it though.

I think the Touch Bar helped with the development of Apple Silicon or at least its integration with macOS, so the title could also read "...You Delivered Incredible Results".

I've had the Touch Bar since 2018.

I'm convinced I've accidentally activated it far more times than I intended to activate.

And replacing the "esc" key with a touch key? It deserved to die.

Was an interesting idea. I think for it to take off they would have needed to shorten the trackpad, move the keyboard down slightly, keep full F-row at half-height, and make the touchscreen taller and closer to bottom of the screen. It was so small, lo-res, and usually slightly covered up by hands.
On top of this, even Apple didn’t use it for much on their apps, in general it was rarely utilized well.

Overall I think the key part of it was evolution and learning for apple silicon on the Mac.

I’ve never been able to adjust my workflow for it; I simply don’t look at the keyboard much at all.
Also I found that the brief period I really tried to use it, it kind of triggered some muscle memory that had me touching the main screen quite a bit, which of course doesn’t work and leaves fingerprints. It’s a weird hybrid.

My 2016 makes me happy. I do not want to pay more for less.

Good riddance.

As a professional, I keep my fingers on the keyboard at all times.

Then came the touchbar. Phantom key presses all the time, having to be conscious where your fingers are at all times. A true nightmare. So glad to have the function keys back.

I'm glad I got the original MacBook Pro with M1 with the touch bar, it is a Pro with fans and all yet it seems as light and slim as the current MacBook Air, I also love the touch bar

I’m so mad the took that out. I vj on occasion and that shit was a god send. You ever try to scrub video in real time with a mouse, like you’re a dJ? That thing made it so easy. Now I gotta attach a controller like a shmuck.

Most of what Apple does, does

Think about a Keyboard with OLED keys

Heck even one with RGB and Brightness Control would be a beauty to behold

I hated that thing. Replacing the F keys with that was an F'ing disaster. Also it was buggy. Had to take mine in for repairs twice.

Emoji bar

hoenstly it was so much fun, Idk why they took it off :(

I absolutely loved my touchbar, I used Pock to make it useful. But such is life...

I’m considering buying a new M3. Not because I need a new computer, but because the Touch Bar drives me insane.

I adjust volume and brightness often and the touch bar is a huge pain. I don’t know gen deal with the other buttons because it’s an extra button click.

I want my function keys back.

Turned my Touch Bar back into the Function keys within 20 minutes of setting up my new 2017 and 2019 MacBook Pros.

Touchbar was fun, fancy with not a ton of utility that stole the function keys’ functionality! Back to square one with the M series like Touchbar never happened.

Killed because apple made two major mistakes, first was replacing function keys for something less functional and making the Touch Bar limited in its functionality, I didn’t hate the Touch Bar like others but they spent no time building it out to have a “killer feature”

It wasn't "ahead of its time;" it was several years after everyone knew the idea was crap.

Lenovo had a touchbar on ThinkPads for one year (IIRC) prior to the MacBook Pro, and then it was removed because no one liked it or used it.

It's a dumb idea that solves no problems, and making us choose between F-keys, which are actually required by some apps, and an emoji picker was inexcusable.

Good riddance.

sad. I actually use the touchbar a lot

super convenient as it allows me to choose different colors to highlight stuff on pdf easily

It held no promise. It was clear that it was a dumb idea the moment the "touch strip" leaked in 2015

There is no potential there, or Apple would've pulled it off, and even they couldn't. The entire reason a keyboard is so functional is because A) the keys don't change, so you don't have to look down to type and B) the keys are physically there and you can feel them before clicking, so you don't have to look down and C) you have to apply physical force before activating them, so you don't have to look down

All so that you don't have to look down. The touch bar fundamentally defeats the entire purpose of a keybaord.

It looks cool in screenshots. But it's so, so dumb

If apple had managed to add haptic feedback to the Touch Bar so that one could use it without always looking at the display requirin presser to trigger a button and using haptics well to let you feel the edge of each button and slider being slid it would have worked but without haptics most users and devs did not care for it.

Good riddance. At least in its current form.

It's a great idea, but:

• It was too segmented. You had to have a specific series of MacBook Pros to use it. You use a Mac Mini, MacBook Air, Mac Pro, or an iMac? Too bad. Why would a dev build for a product on a subset of computers that is the minority of applications?
• It was underutilized by developers. As mentioned above, it didn't even target all Mac users - only a percentage of them. Most app developers have bigger fish to fry than to build utilities for MacBook Pro users that aren't docked to a monitor or using an external keyboard.
• It got rid of useful keys. The function keys - in their traditional functionality - don't really do much on a Mac, but anyone that's used a Mac for more than 30 minutes knows where the volume and brightness keys are. The escape key being removed was terrible for anyone developing in a code editor or IDE. Yes, they brought the escape key back, but the touchbar should've been an add-on, not a replacement, for the function keys.
• It wasn't good for productivity. Any distraction from your screen can cause a break in productivity and your train of thought. While the touchbar could provide some really useful functionality, it wasn't a fluid connection to the display, so it was easy to break focus.
• It was still half-baked. 3rd party applications picked up the slack that Apple left behind (and I'll never forget Nyancat or Doom on the touchbar!), but there was nothing that made the average user want to use it - aside from in Apple applications. And most pro app users know the keyboard shortcuts and didn't need it anyway. And it still boggles me that they never added haptics. The trackpad has insanely good haptics. However, you'd put your hand over the touchbar, you couldn't see what you're doing, and you got no feedback. It just made the whole thing feel underdeveloped.

I liked the Touch Bar personally or at least aspects of it.

Cool idea, implemented completely the wrong way

I loved the Touch Bar on my 15” MBP. I used it for emojis in Messages, special characters in Pages, Shortcuts in Maya, Fusion 360, and DaVinci Resolve, volume controls for headphones, color adjustments in Photoshop ect… Most of those things now require the clunky onscreen window keyboard or latext, which takes much longer. I hope they can figure out how to reintroduce its functionality again in future models.

I thought I would hate the Touch Bar when I bought the M1 MacBook Pro but I have ended up kinda liking it. I wouldn't say I love it. I think function keys are better for certain tasks, but the Touch Bar has some utility for sure.

Since applications can include the Touch Bar they can move some functionality down there. Things like switch tabs in Safari, turning on and off hidden files in Finder, and of course scrubbing through audio/video. I especially like how IINA uses the Touch Bar pulling frames from the video file makes the scrubbing area into a colourful representation of the video. I wish the Touch Bar was used a bit more actually. I find it weird that, and maybe this can be changed in Settings, you can't get granular control of volume or screen brightness with the Touch Bar. I think if you hold Option or Control, or both, you can get more fine tuned changes. I just think that should be the default for using the Touch Bar.

Adding a display into the track pad sounds like a good idea

It looks neat. The only time I use it is to find an emoji.

Touch Bar is the reason why I'm hesitant to increase specs on apple gear. I still own a macbook that works fine, has lots of SSD and RAM - and a discontinued touchbar.