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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

Best news I've heard all year! A general strike is probably one of our best ways to radicalize the masses. I'm fuckin pumped

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago

Let's fucking go. They've worked hard to gut the strength unions used to wield with the POWER of the general strike. Time to bring it back baaaby.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yay for more strikes!

Obligatory merchandising here, but you can support our union's effort during the strike by buying some swags in the link below.

sagaftra.org/official-sag-aftra-strike-swag-available

[–] Arielcorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks, esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie!

(I bought the stickers).

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks, esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie!

Finally. After all these months. Thank you.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I really want to believe it's actually Margot Robbie. But I'm just a dog.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A general strike would result in the fall of the federal government. Secondary action is illegal because it's so powerful. This is an interesting way to get around that, with every contract just happening to align with the other.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this rate though, the federal government is about to result in the fall of the federal government.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I would blame the people who have stated publicly that they want the federal government to fall.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

This is a really smart thing, though. Any unions that align contract dates with UAW and others who also do so, gains a huge lever to use both now and later.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

He's speaking as a union rep, I get what you're saying but he just can't call a general strike. It would take years alone to get different trade union contracts to align to expire on the same year to get what he wants to do across. For example I'm in a steelworker union and my contract expires in 2027. If we sign a new contract in 2027 and participate in a general strike it wouldn't be backed by our union and could be punishable. However if they vote to extend the current contract 1 year near the end of the contract (very likely) we would actually have steelworkers and auto workers contracts expiring on the same year which could be interesting if these assholes actually communicated with each other union to union.

Sorry if you knew all this but I took your comment as in a "why not sooner?" or "what are they waiting for?" context so I felt compelled to answer.

[–] brodrobe@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

5 years too late, we need action today. Let's get it rolling sooner than that.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is awesome, but idk if they're even printing 2028 calendars yet lol

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Five years certainly seems distant. I think if no civil war starts in the next five years, then the Earth will just drop out of orbit and fall into the Sun.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We will be saved by the second coming of Harambe.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Already have my dick out.

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[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Would be interesting. A peaceful general strike would lead to military intervention in about 45-60 days I think.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I'd say less than a week. Capitalism is something that we have to wake up and make happen every single day. How many days worth of food does the average person have? Definitely not 45 days. People would have to start self-organizing within 2-3 days, and in doing so, they would actively make something that isn't capitalism, which directly challenges those in power.

This is why every time there are emergencies or protests, the media is obsessed with "looting." If there's no food because of a hurricane or whatever, it is every single person's duty to redistribute what there is equitably. The news and capitalists (but I repeat myself) call that "looting," even when it's a well-organized group of neighbors going into a closed store to distribute spoiling food to hungry people.

Rebecca Solnit writes about this in detail in A Paradise Built in Hell. It's really good. She's an awesome writer.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the third time this book has come up in my life recently. I'm going to have to read it

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I love her. You know all of those outlets that try to respond how all the news is bad by doing good news, but it's always just the orphan crushing machine all over again?

Solnit is like an actually rigorous and deeply insightful version of what that thinks it is doing. I think she herself would push back on anyone who says she tries to figure out "human nature," but insomuch as that's a meaningful thing to do, that's what she does. The book's central aim is to investigate what human beings are actually like when existing social expectations and power structures are removed, and it's both well-researched and surprisingly optimistic.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are already mutual aid networks out there, food banks, community gardens, and neighborhood associations. The seeds are planted and the soil is fecund and ready. You cannot crush what is already dirt.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There is still much building needed for the networks and groups. The start is good, but participation and organization is currently still quite basic.

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[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what is the military going to do? Force everyone back to work under the threat of death? Sounds like the catalyst to a revolution to me

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Sooner or later, someone in the military would have to decixe between following an order, and not shooting a friend/relative. And as you say... revolution.

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

That long? Ain't no way the shareholders would let the government stay on its leash long enough to tank an entire fiscal quarter

Will somebody think of the economy?!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A peaceful general strike would lead to military intervention in about 45-60 days I think.

But at the end of the day, how do you task society to forcibly work?

Everyone can just start taking sick days, what's the Army going to do, go to door?

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm speaking more towards if workers stay at home en mass, etc.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Action and motion are necessary to sustain life in a community, through distribution, protection, and communication.

Nevertheless, whether workers are inside the home or outside, it seems reasonable to anticipate visitation by ACAB.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (16 children)

it seems reasonable to anticipate visitation by ACAB.

I don't know, the optics of police literally going into people's homes and pulling them out and forcing them to work doesn't seem like something the government would want, no matter what.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which side of government would care? The coproratocracy or the facists?

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Unfortunately the Taft-Hartley act made political and solidarity strikes unlawful. Solidarity strike ≈ General strike. There are some very minor differences, but I don't see that mattering.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Hartley_Act

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That's the point. If all the contracts expire at the same time, it's a coincidence, not a general strike in the eyes of the law

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[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are they going to do, throw the entire working population in jail?

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All the effective strikes are illegal.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 2 years ago

Fucking exactly. We're only allowed to have small relief valves to prevent riots, we aren't allowed to actually fight for a better future.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Hartley_Act

Interesting that it was a Republican sponsored bill, and voted in by a Republican Senate and House.

Also interesting that the President Truman had vetoed it.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

A political, solidarity, secondary strike etc. is where a union or group under an in-force bargaining agreement are not allowed to strike just because their friends/fellow workers are striking. While not under a collective agreement then they can strike. If everyone's agreement expires simultaneously, then it is possible for any or every group to strike.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Okay. The police will just have to arrest hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people all across the country then.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

An interesting read, thank you for sharing.

The anti-communism slant in the law was slightly humorous to read, as it shows you the times in which the law was written.

[–] Meuzzin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IUOE Local 1 Standing by...

[–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah!

What does that mean?

[–] FancyManacles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

International Union of Operating Engineers

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