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[–] coalie@piefed.zip 159 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

"meat honey"The vulture bee is sometimes said to produce a so-called "meat honey", but this is a misnomer resulting from scientific uncertainty, due to historic confusion of multiple species, each with a slightly different method of processing.

In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate "pots" in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

In a different study of Trigona necrophaga in Panama, the bees gathered nectar and produced honey, and they also produced a glandular secretion, derived from carrion, partially metabolized, used as a protein source, and kept completely separate from the honey. In neither case were the bees mixing meat-based substances with floral-derived substances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_bee

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 110 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Vulture bees usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There needs to be metal band called Vulture Bees, this is too metal.

[–] obre@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 weeks ago
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)
On bed of mottled rocks 
Amid flowers cold as ice 
Pray the weak, the old, the poor

And when the tiny one from Heaven comes 
Crawls inside the chosen skull 
And when the tiny one it summons the others 
To crawl inside the chosen skull

They build their castles in the heads of kings 
Bring life to the empty halls 
They build their castles in the heads of kings 
And honey will flow once more 
Once more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf_4uvymwRw

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate "pots" in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

So it's not incorporated in the honey. They have a separate protein stache.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A protein stache would be part of a meat beard.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I'll keep the typo up because of this <3

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Fascinating. It's worth mentioning that (normal) honey can be used to preserve meat, thanks to its antimicrobial and hydrophilic properties. I guess that's what's going on here too: they use a kind of nectar honey to keep the meat component from going off. That said, this kind of food preservation isn't immune to botulism so do be careful if you try this.

Now I'm wondering when/how this behavior evolved. Did these guys come first, and honeybees figured out how to eat pollen as a protein source as an evolutionary step, the other way around, or separately at the same time from some parent species?

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I just came into the comments to post that. Thank you!

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 89 points 2 weeks ago

Using their extra-toothed mandible, they will slice and chew the flesh off, coating the meat in their acid-rich saliva before consumption. The bee will transport the chewed carrion back to the colony where it’s regurgitated into wax pots, different from the honey pots.

Here, the meat will be mixed with honey and left to mature over a period of 14 days. During this curing time, it will become a paste-like substance that is rich in free amino acids and sugars. This paste is fed to their young, who need it to grow.

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So basically a potted meat but with sugar instead of fat. Apparently they also keep normal honey that's separate from the meat honey. Bees are so fucking cool.

[–] 5715@feddit.org 72 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nature does depravity.
Humans: "Is it edible?"

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While I would agree on the surface, it's not really depravity. We've got to do away with rotting meat somehow. Hence why vultures are so important.

Still upvoted though.

[–] 5715@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

I just wanted to use that word... The whole sentence is just a word game given that personifying environment into nature is common, but wrong.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have you ever thought about blue cheese?

"Let's try drinking the milk from an animal"

"Oh, it's kinda gross and solid ish now. Still tastes good though"

"Oh wait, it's gone really mouldy. Let's slap it on some chicken wings"

[–] 5715@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Animal cheese connoisseurs be like: Our food culture grew by one diarrhoea at a time.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

People learning about mushrooms: This one tastes like beef, this one killed bob instantly, and that one made me see god for 2 weeks

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[–] negativenull@piefed.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.earth 19 points 2 weeks ago

We require more Vespene gas

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As vulture bee honey is derived from animal flesh, it is not suitable for vegetarians.

Phew that's good to know! Nearly gourged myself on some corpse honey

[–] Sphks@jlai.lu 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Honey produced by vulture bees is a pleasant tasting and sweet smelling honey-like liquid.

It's strange that it doesn't taste like rotten flesh.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I read it tastes a bit more like cheese/butter.

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[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago

No good, I'm thanks, dad

What

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 44 points 2 weeks ago

That hive looks like I'm not high enough level to fight whatever is in there.

[–] e_chao@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This one probably needs a NSFW filter, for "I was eating" reasons 😅

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I know what my players are facing next time they venture into the Underdark...

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are they facing the person who decided to test the edibility of the corpse nest?

[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Now that you mention it, hell yes they are!

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 25 points 2 weeks ago

From the entomologic side: this is so interesting, thanks for sharing.

From the Mothership RPG DM side: this is so useful, thanks for sharing.

[–] raven@lemmy.org 25 points 2 weeks ago

I would not want the honey from Resident Evil anywhere near my breakfast.

[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think I saw that in Dead Space

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[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Ok, as I understood it, there is "edible honey" that is really plant-based, and "carrion meat-based protein storage" that kind of works like pollen storage in honeybees nest. TBH, I find pollen more nutritional and tasty than honey. And I know that honey bees are opportunistic carnivores too. These things kind of come together in a story better left untold.

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[–] Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

So busy with "could" didn't worry with "should"

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Alright. I would. Gimme the goo.

Or would I contract a prion from it?

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

There's a whole raft of things that are technically edible, that I want nowhere near my mouth. Add this to the list.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Another one to add to the list when someone claims intelligent design. Approached from evolution, this makes sense - what works becomes a thing. And while it's disgusting to us, it's just a process and they're doing their part to help the cycle. From an ID pov... what the living fuck?

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are also stingless, how interesting.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

when i hear couples calling each other honey, this is what i will picture in my head

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

That means someone tried it out

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is why their hive looks.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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