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Microslop Winslop 11 with Electroslop
Today it took almost 30 seconds for the context menu to appear when I right clicked on a file in windows explorer. I mean ffs, if I wanted everything to be a browser, I'd use a chromebook.
(Inb4 "install linux", it's a work computer and I don't get a say in OS)
Dude. Same. Windows 11 at work is fucking awful.
My laptop idles at 12 out of 16 gigs of RAM free.
Right clicking takes dozens of seconds, especially on a network share.
Did IT remove a letter mapped network drive? Haha! Fuck you! Windows hangs indefinitely if you open Windows explorer. You gotta fuck around in the registry to remove that shit.
The only good thing about windows 11 is tabs in Windows explorer. Which MacOS and Linux have had for a gazillion years.
Even in Edge, Outlook (a Microslop web app running on a Microslop browser) sometimes takes up to a minute to load on refresh. HOW!? God I hate that company.
The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.
They've fucked it up recently, but basically, 90% of the time you'd get the same consistent interface design across all apps, with common design language and iconography and accessibility features. They aggressively deprecate so you have to keep that $100 dev fee rolling, but the experience has been good for the the better part of 20 years (post carbon & X11, pre-liquid ass, the cocoa years).
If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.
If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.
I am happy to report: Windows apps that look different, feel shit to use and perform like shit are already available!
E.g. Teams, the CPU warmer from hell, was rolled out to Windows long ago. It was coded for Electron and couldn't even integrate with Microsoft Windows' taskbar popups. They had to fake one by creating a window that moved itself up from below the screen. Did this break when you changed resolution? Yes it did. Did it break when you moved the taskbar? Yes it did. Did it break when- YES IT DID
The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.
iOS doesn't even have a universal back button, every app has their own way of implementing it.
-> push software that needs tons of ram
-> cause ram shortage
-> ???
-> ...profit?
At least for Enterprise where the real money is, "???" seems to be https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/windows-365-enterprise
This isn't some grand plan 5d chess. The people running these companies are dumb as hell and lucky. They get convinced from one silicon valley thought leader's blog post that ai and electron are the future and then direct the entire company in that direction thinking they're a great leader who will be remembered for pushing the company in a novel direction at just the right time. They attend a talk by a different thought leader who talks about a future of ai cloud computers that anyone can access from anywhere with more computational power than could ever fit into the shitty laptop they're accessing it from, then they go to the board meeting the next day with their bright new idea to do cloud personal desktops.
These companies are entirely responding to (nonsensical) market forces and the whims of high ranking individuals within their ranks. It's painful and ridiculous.
-> …profit?
They're already hitting the storage side of things pretty hard.
Buy up all of the hardware on the planet to have a monopoly on compute/storage -> rent the compute/storage to everyone who can't buy it.
See also: Housing
Once again, Microslop is a strong contender for Linux Marketer Of The Year award
Sure, I love it when a 50KB app takes 50MB because some cunt designer only knows HTML.
Lack of constraints has killed everything. I hope all the RAM and storage becomes unusable people are forced to work with 3mb again.
Nah, they'll just push for streaming compute power and charge you once more!
I'm just waiting for their reaction when everyone is supposed to use cloud desktops and the average application assumes the user has 128 GB of RAM.
Spontaneously I had the idea of entering this forbidden word into a browser, just to see what would happen:
microslop.com
The result was truth, and nothing but the truth, I can assure you :-)
Not really surprising considering Windows seems to be increasingly swapping their native shell components for Web Views (you can tell because sometimes they fail to load (: )
You know it's bad when Brendan fucking Eich is the reasonable one
Why is settings getting so bad, its like using a nonfunctional electron app.
If you don't want to write native code, then make a PWA. At least those don't run a separate copy of chrome for each program.
Repeat with me.
INSTALL LINUX!
with me.
INSTALL LINUX!
The next step in app delivery is shipping a full VM with the operating system and the app.
Javascript creator thinks they are rushing things.
Javascript creator thinks they are rushing things.
Microsoft also make the one app that actually shines in electron: vs code. It's really quite optimised. But somehow they didn't bother learning lessons from that and keep rolling out terrible slop like teams and new outlook.
It's weird how one company can do things right and also be do incompetent at the same time.
Tbf vscode has opensource contributors and they had the code for atom text editor (by developers of electron and github) to look as reference code.
Rip Atom, it's a shame microsoft bought github and ended your development to promote their IDE. Who could have known they have no morals.
I remember when 16 GB was for high work-load workstation tasks, it was not that long ago. Now it keeps getting used up by one single instance of firefox when it is open for too long. Screw javascript bullshit, i just want to use lynx and netsurf already.
Yeah sounds like an AI agent decided that.
I'm pretty anti webtech but even I've written GUIs in wails. I hate electron so much, but what makes it worse is that there are so many better options. The people that keep pushing it are stupid*
Hi, uh- just incase Slopya Nadella of Microslop happens to read the comments here one day,
Slopya- please take your sloperating system, print the slop code on A4 paper, fold it until it's all corners. When done, insert rectally.
the worst thing about electron apps besides everything about election apps are the fact that there's no shared libraries so you basically have to have a billion of the same node modules on your system for every electron app that you have.
Windows now Chromebooks?
this solidifies two of my predictions from 15-20 years ago.
my final prediction from then was subscription based access to your operating system, apps, and data. you own nothing. your data is constantly consumed and used to train their products. you will never be able to extract your data and will be forever locked-in to their product. this also means that you will have to pay extra for app use. need to use Photoshop? that's an extra fee. need to use 3D rendering software? thats the ultra package with GPU fees per hour.
most of this is actually happening under the covers, but nothing is locking us in.
I would say we have about 5-7 years before the above happens and there's no way back.
I would actually be for keyboards having a dedicated AI key, because then I would always have a key to remap to my voice PTT without loosing anything useful.
We could view this as "MS pushes for stupid direction that clued-in tech people are opposed to," or we could view this as "MS gives up on native apps because everyone else of consequence already has." I hate it but I have eyes.
If AI enhanced coding is really so great, we might expect to see a Renaissance of small, efficient native apps, even on platforms like Android. I'm not holding my breath, though.
