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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 158 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

He later said: “So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory because it is their territory, it’s the place from which they get their energy and they should come and they should help us protect it.”

Then came the line that quickly sparked reaction online:

“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all because we don’t need it.”

It's Iran's terrority, and Iran is defending it after being attacked...

But I really think he's getting pressure from Christian extremists to abandon Israel. Their endgame was always Israel getting wiped out by its neighbors to start Armageddon and rapture Christians.

If no one joins against Iran, trump will likely try to slink away and Bibi holding the bag.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 66 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And he threatened NATO, who by all his accounts "stood back from the front lines" When Article 5 was called during the bullshit second Gulf War. And now he DEMANDS they help. Sure buddy.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just love the quote:

So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding...

He starts with needing help, starts to say he just really wants it, then pivota to demanding it.

The fact that he went thru those steps shows how much pressure he's facing.

His two biggest wings of influence has been Israel and American christo-fascists, if they start pulling him in opposite ways, he can't hold onto both.

He's fucked, but so are the rest of us by extension. Hopefully just till midterms at least.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 40 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The thing is, as a foreigner, and speaking bluntly, this is on the entire American population, voting him in once was one thing, but not dealing with Jan 6 harshly under Bidens administration did nothing more than encourage them and their billionaire backers. IF there's no false flag operation to cancel the midterms and IF presidential elections are held and the democrats get into power, you lot are going to have to overhaul your entire system to ensure another Trump doesn't happen. And honestly speaking I can't realistically see that happening.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

The thing is, as a foreigner, and speaking bluntly, this is on the entire American population

No problem.

To put it bluntly I don't expect Americans to understand our political system, so I'm not surprised when foreigners clearly don't. Shits complicated and nonsensical

I just wish more would ask questions instead of sharing uninformed opinions as facts, but maga thinking isn't reserved for Americans...

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

you still think voting will get you out of the fascism you invited in?

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i've been loudly condemning trump for well over 10 years, losing relationships with friends and family because of it. I didn't "invite" shit, and i accept zero responsibility for the bullshit fascist...whatever the fuck you call this place now. this country is full of fucking racist brainwashed sheep and/or just plain gullible morons.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

agreed... sorry you are caught up in the generalization

[–] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

Of course not. If the first move on a chess board was to simply take your opponent’s king, that would always be the first move in every game.

Having the midterm vote suppressed is just one sacrificial pawn in the direction of what needs to be done to eradicate fascism.

Knowing what to do isn’t that valuable if you don’t time it correctly. It’s not just one person or party. It is systemic and requires a critical mass of history to be successful.

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[–] br0da@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Invited in? I didn’t invite any of this in. Not by my vote, not by my letters to government officials, and not by my protests.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe if people actually showed the fuck up it might. But there's so many "voting doesn't do shit" people that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man I am so fucking ready for the Nationalist Christians to become huge fucking pariahs as a direct result of all of the idiocy that they’ve been pushing

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

by then the world may be literally cooked.

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh boy do I have terrible news about runaway climate change

It was 80 degrees here yesterday and its snowing right now as I type this.

And this is the best our climate will be for the rest of our lives 🙃

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[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is a moron and so are his supporters. It’s a moron horde.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never underestimate idiots in large numbers.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

5/4ths of them don't even know math.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“Sorry, your son died in this war. We shouldn’t even have been there.”

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

It's almost like he only joined in on the war because Israel was instructing him or something.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Epstein distraction turned into another mid term issue and no one stopped paying attention to the Epstein issue. Can't keep winning

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago

Bloomberg has regular interviews with analysts for giant investment firms. They had one who specializes in government debt. She said she talks to the people who work the front office for politicians. The Iran war and affordability come up regularly but the number one question they get is about the Epstein files.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Crazy reality when the bare minimum ideal to aim for is not electing senile pedophiles to the most influential position on the planet Earth.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Senile old pedo rapist "thinks" out loud...

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

This reveals how piss poor the planning was the lack of concern for the dead and wounded. Life is cheap under the MAGA fucks.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Man I sometimes have dreams that everyone suddenly realizes Trump is senile, is removed from office, the US apologizes for what he's done, pays everything back, presses undo on everything.
Its not too late. Undo America!

senile

fun fact: The word "senate" goes back to the same origin than the world "senile": Both go back to latin "senex" meaning old man.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We ~~SHOULD~~ ~~SHOULD NOT~~ ~~SHOULD~~ ~~SHOULD NOT~~ ~~SHOULD~~ SHOULD NOT be at War!

-Free Thinking Republicans who Voted for Trump for Peace!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago

They're MAGAs, they are always pro-war, no matter they claim.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Explain to me who can possibly be stunned at this point that Donald Trump's a braindead moron who has no idea what's going on.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

-> start a war with Iran for no reason

-> don't consult any allies apart from Israel

-> "EU and NATO assistance unnecessary"

-> turns out Iran is prepared and responds

-> "if NATO doesn't help, the alliance is over"

🤡🤡🤡

[–] Itwasntme223@discuss.online 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Watch him claim later on that he doesn't know why they're in Iran because he never gave the orders to do that. It must have been Hegseth.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all because we don’t need it.”

“We have a lot of oil,” said Trump. “We were the number one producer anywhere in the world times two by double, at least double. Now I think it’s much higher than that. But we do it. It’s almost like we do it for habit, but we also do it for some very good allies that we have in the Middle East.”

That does not at all sound like a "probably we shouldn't be there" statement. It reads more like "some say we shouldn't but we do it anyways because ..."

Like he outright states he's doing it for Israel and because Israel asked him to and somehow convinced him. He's not backing down. That's not what he's saying there.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We were the number one producer anywhere in the world times two by double

TIL we produce 4x the amount of oil as any other country.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Every so often the truth comes out and it's shocking AF when it comes from there.

[–] JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my god… he is so stupid and worthless.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, like, at what point does the rest of the world just declare war on us for the cabinet not using the 25th?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When one of their own shillionaires gets killed by Trump's stupidity.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I dislike hom as much as the next guy but what he meant is very clearly not what the article implies. Baitclick

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Reading the article, it sounds to me exactly as the headline implies. So tell me, what did he actually mean then?

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[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is “stuns” really the right word to use anymore?

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