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[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 311 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 111 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So many of these things just seem incredibly bizarre once you're used to Linux.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Until you do a dist-upgrade and random shit breaks (:

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

At least that's usually an honest mistake, instead of some managers trying to juice their numbers through dark patterns.

Unless, of course, you're using Ubuntu. Then it might also be a manager trying to juice their numbers.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I do a yay (sudo pacman -Syu, under the hood) every two weeks or so and shit don't break. Dunno what weird program dependencies y'all have for stuff to break so often.

In any case, if shit broke, I have snapshots of the last 5 days and last 5 upgrades. It's automatic, not rocket science.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 110 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm deeply sorry. If it's any consolation, it will eventually happen to everybody.

Or at least everybody that didn't see the light and adopt The Penguin... But let's leave religion to another time.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

BTW, Arch is awesome.

( actually, i use Manjaro. but it's based on arch. so that still counts, right?)

[–] FirmDistribution@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

so that still counts, right?

Still counts. You now have to say you use arch every hour, otherwise you'll implode.

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

manjaro has had a lot of drama and problems in the past and i don't think it's really a good distro to use. they forgot to renew their ssl certificate multiple times, they break software due to their weird update strategy (they use custom repos which hold back updates mostly arbitrarily for a week) which breaks dependencies and sometimes breaks the entire system, and their gui package manager once overwhelmed the AUR with traffic.

a better alternative with an easy gui installer would be endeavouros or cachyos. endeavour is basically manjaro except competent and with regular arch packages. cachy has its own repos (in order to build specialized versions of packages), but it keeps in sync with the regular arch repos.

though of course if manjaro is working for you that's great and any amount of linux use is good. manjaro is just a bit temperamental. i also understand that some people can't just distrohop, for example because they don't have a separate home partition, or not enough space to copy important files elsewhere before wiping their partitions.

[–] T4V0@lemmy.pt 7 points 2 weeks ago

As a end user I definitely wouldn't recommend Manjaro right now, especially with the current organization drama right now, Manjaro's 2.0 manifesto. After they restructure themselves, it might come out as a more interesting distro, but for now it's best to steer clear.

[–] exu@feditown.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, it doesn't count. You only get BTW privileges after installing Arch at least once.

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[–] abfarid@startrek.website 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

False. My machine officially isn't upgradeable to W11 cause it's too old. Also, it's possible that LTSC doesn't even suggest to upgrade.

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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't leave us hanging. What distro?

[–] db2@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Hannah Montana

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Half a dozen of them have real cost/benefits trade-offs that make preaching for a single one harmful. The other thousand are just completely useless waste of time not worth mentioning.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

BSD BSD BSD. read that in a chant of course.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. Most things still run on it, and that baby's got no user-facing slop and five more years of support in it. Mass Grave dot dev.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

+1 massgrave. Got the extended support for my regular W10 pro. After that, it's going to be debian if - fingers crossed - nothing breaks. It's a 6700K build.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s a 6700K build.

That's hot, are you sure you hooked up the fans?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's just the RGBW LED color temperature.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Going to Linux is probably the more sustainable solution (I ended up on Ubuntu and my 4130 is happy enough) but you apparently might be able to convert-in-place to the IoT edition, if that's the route you'd prefer to go down.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick lobotomy

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[–] remon@ani.social 76 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Your system does not support Windows 11".

Best error message I ever got!

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or, windows 11 doesnt support my system. Not my problem.

Its actually interesting how they phrased it so that our systems are the problem and not their product.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

My boss at work told it to download thinking that he would have a choice to install in when he wanted. Now he understands what a virus is.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Damn, that never happens on my Arch Linux install.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I've also never once been prompted to install Win11 on Neon

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I dual boot windows because of a few things that don't matter too much to me, and i haven't really figured out wine as much as i should. Anyway, i booted up windows again after like 5 months. I hated every second of it, but overall, nothing of note happened. The next day, i had to boot windows again, and when i shut it down, it gave me the option to update and reboot or update and shut down, nothing else. I should've just unplugged my pc, but I updated and shut it down and left my room. When i came back a few hours later, my pc was stuck in a reboot loop and i couldn't really boot anything. Just fuck everything about windows.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you dual boot, you need to keep the windows partition on a separate disk, otherwise it will most likely fuck your boot partition.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank god it requires enabling something my BIOS has disabled by default and I don't need it for anything, otherwise my install of 10 would have already been turned into 11 on its own.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have to use it, it's the corporate setup. Every day I envy plumbers who unclog toilets.

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[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

great opportunity to try out bazzite or cachyos :P

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

More like a downgrade

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

That happened to me, but I'm happy with CachyOS now for most things. I can't believe how much it a step down 11 was from 10 though, it was astounding. Worse than 7 to 8, even.

[–] splendid9583@kbin.earth 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Really pissed because about a year ago in february it upgraded without my informed consent and I never noticed until something else bad happened. You can only downgrade if you notice within a week.

It's real fuckin insidious, I had already reformatted my PC once too recently so I juuuust kinda toughed it out.

Anyways, they keep everything same-ish which prevents you from noticing they changed your whole OS which should be illegal.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Downgrade your PC to avoid having this issue. Follow me for more terrible tech tips you should never have to do in the first place.

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