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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

that often happens in war

War, like the thing that congress has to declare before you go attacking places willy-nilly?

[–] fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a Schrödingconflict - it exists simultaneously as a war and non-war

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We've pretty much literally hit 1984 levels of linguistic fuckery / hyperreality.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

HyperReality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality

Largely (entirely?) from Baudrillard.

Related to HyperNormalisation, but not quite the same thing.

Curtis, in his documentary, essentially derived HyperNormalisation from HyperReality... he cites Baudrillard a lot, uses it as a framework to describe HyperNormalisation, to refine the ideas, make them more specific, expand upon the foundation laid by Baudrillard.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh, TIL. Interesting, thanks!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahem.

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is.

You have to see it for yourself.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

No.

I'm telling you that when you're ready...

... it won't matter, because 'dodge' and 'bullets' will mean entirely different things, to people living in different parts of the hyperreality.

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am genuinely shocked that the US aren't referring to it as a "special military operation".

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Trump has apparently settled on 'an excursion'.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a war, it's just a special operation, like the one Russia did against Ukraine in Feb 2022!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's seriously looking like both Cold War powers will be caught in a terminal forever war, that they refuse to call a war, at the same time but for different reasons.

I almost forgot this is the joke timeline for a moment there.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nah, war with Iran can't last any real length of time, America would collapse first. Maybe if their allies were on board and enemies not actively working with Iran.

Think about this, the oil markets skyrocketed in overnight trading and were on track to skyrocket on March 9th before Trump admin lied about escorting a tanker and then later Europe announces its going to release 400M Barrel emergency release and then the US announces 172M barrel release. If those 20M barrels aren't getting through each day that's 29 days of time before the market goes to the moon. It's already been 3 weeks.

There is no way this lasts as long as Russo-Ukraine has so far. I would be shocked if it lasted longer than six months and I anticipate it to be basically over in 6 weeks with Iran giving some publicly dramatic but unsubstantial concessions and the Trump giving extremely huge substantial concessions, but hand-waving it away as the best for America. Like removing from all of the bases in the area and not enforcing what currency oil is traded in. Maybe they will compromise with some god forsaken crypto solution to settlement.

If it lasts longer than 6 weeks that means inflation the likes most Americans have never witnessed. Words like impeachment and criminal trials will start to become a lot more common when gas goes to $10 a gallon and a banana is $5.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're not wrong. The same is true for Russia's economy, though - they've been burning the economic furniture to keep consumer prices in the same place and expand their military. The regime doesn't look like they're confident they can survive actual austerity when it hits.

The US is more likely to survive giving up, at least in the short term. As broken and ossified as their system of power is, it's also well-defined and has over two centuries of ontological momentum behind it. Edit: And they haven't lost nearly as much as Russia to date.

I guess "terminal forever war" is a bit of an oxymoron, even if people get what I mean.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And my parents eat this with a spoon and lick the bowl.

[–] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Mine too! Fuckin weird thing to mentally grapple with, eh - Seeing the people you come from excuse behavior like this?

Like what the fuck are people trying so hard to wall up inside that ends up with them siding with this extra-dimensional moron?

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Underneath the pond scum, at the bottle, lies all the duck shit.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think I literally quoted Farquad in real time as he said this.

Unless he's done it more than once, which is sadly possible.

[–] the_visitor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Why don't he put his children in the frontline.

whale shit?