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Explanation: Today is the Ides of March, the day on which the Roman conqueror and dictator Gaius Julius Caesar was assassinated, by being stabbed numerous times by the Senatorial aristocracy.
There is also a salad called a 'Caesar Salad' that was invented much later, unrelated to Gaius Julius Caesar. Still, it's funny to conflate the two. SALAD MAN LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS, AND STOMACHS
But Caesar was assassinated for deliberately attempting to crown himself King, breaking several laws including one about marching an army into Rome which lead to a civil war, and also messing with the Senates money.
In various ways he was basically who Trump wants to be.
But Caesar was assassinated for deliberately attempting to crown himself King,
Accused, yet all sources agree that he never did so, and denied having designs on kingship.
breaking several laws including one about marching an army into Rome which lead to a civil war,
You mean like how the Senate assassinated the dictator Sulla for doing the same?
No?
They actually revered his memory, because Sulla was an ultraconservative aligned with the Senatorial aristocracy? While Caesar was a lifelong (if moderate) populare reformist, aligned with the poor of Rome?
Well, I'm sure, at least, that Caesar's motivation for starting his civil war was equally petty - having his lucrative command given to someone else!
... no? Caesar started the civil war because Cato the Younger and the ultraconservatives in the Senate scuttled a compromise which would've seen Caesar lay down his command, all for the reason that they wished to kill Caesar just as they'd killed numerous populare reformers before him?
Well, I'm sure Caesar was at least as vicious and tyrannical as Sulla.
... no? Caesar was famous for his mercy, with most of his enemies pardoned without preconditions, and he continued to support the normal functioning of Roman elections? While Sulla suspended elections and stripped the democratic elements of the Roman Constitution so the rich could rule without having to worry about The Poors? And Sulla executed huge numbers of his political opponents, and some people just because they weren't his supporters and he wanted to seize their wealth?
Well, I'm sure the Senate wouldn't have broken the laws in the same period!
... it did? Repeatedly? Including unconstitutionally appointing a single consul without a colleague? Executing citizens without a trial? Violating measures it itself had passed regarding Caesar's term of office?
... hm. Almost like Caesar breaking the law and starting a civil war wasn't the actual cause of his assassination.
and also messing with the Senates money.
The money of the Roman Senate? The Senate of Rome?
Most of whom had abandoned Rome, some to follow Pompey, many under threat of force, and some simply having returned to their country villas in the hopes of avoiding attention?
And the rest of whom supported Caesar even before he entered the city? And validated his use of the money in the treasury of Rome that had been left behind by the Pompeiian forces?
Tribune Metellus should've remembered he wasn't at an optimate dinner party.
In various ways he was basically who Trump wants to be.
Not even close.
I don't even like Caesar, and I think the Liberatores did the right thing*, but gotta agree with PugJesus here: Trump is way closer to a Sulla wannabe than a Caesar wannabe.
*a bit too early, a bit too late, for the wrong reasons, but no matter Caesar's reforms it was a bit too obvious he was concentrating power, in a way no human being should not.
