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Say no to ableism.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Say no to ableism.

Say no to Clankers in general (they also really love to play the disabled card.)

[–] cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Agreed. Also OP is the moderator of PeerTube .wtf which I recently moved away from on account of being told I should waste my time, energy, and (nonexistent) artistic ability creating artwork for someone who already decided to "generate" slop instead of commissioning an actual artist.

Edit: lol I'm stoopid I just realized that I might be the whole reason this post exists hahahaha

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

TBH I'm not surprised.

[+] meldrik@lemmy.wtf -7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You attacked and insulted a disabled person for using AI.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So? Disabled people aren't magically excused from abhorrent behavior simply because they're disabled. Is it easier for some disabled people to create art with AI than without it? Sure. But that's true irrespective of disability.

It's only inappropriate to judge someone for something that directly relates to their disability. You're just using disability as an excuse to churn out slop.

I cannot think of a single disability that would prevent someone from creating art without AI, without also disabling them so completely that they would be able to create art with AI. A quadriplegic person can create art if they want. And it will have infinitely more soul than some slop by someone hiding behind a disability.

[–] cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

You hit the nail on the head, my friend.

[–] cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago

Assuming they are disabled, which a passerby like myself cannot be expected to know, that does not excuse the deliberate choice to use ethically unsound technology. It's especially true in this case, as even if a disability limits your potential as a visual artist, you'll gladly commission somebody if you have any respect for the craft. I know this because I too have such a disability, and it hurts. It hurts knowing I might forever depend on the hands of others to bring some of my ideas to life, but you know what? That only strengthens my appreciation of visual artists and their work. I'd rather commission a talented artist to mix my silly brainwaves with their personal flourishes and create something meaningful, ten times over, then throw some words at an industrialized theft machine to get soulless slop.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

got any links to that event?

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm sure this will be a very reasonable and respectful comments section.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

[–] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, how did this disabled person use AI to support themselves?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

For one example, I've seen posts by blind folks using AI to vibe code scripts that fill gaps in accessibility solutions.

It's not hard stuff to code, it's just that coders with the skill to fix it upstream either don't understand the issue, or don't give a shit.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

Heaven forbid someone let the plagiarism machine have a positive use case

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 13 points 2 weeks ago

How did said disabled person use AI, then ?

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Link or it didn't happen.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Supporting the disabled is genuinely a good use of AI.

[–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How is it supporting them in your opinion?

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

You could ask OP.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone who is shit at writing claims they’re disabled and need AI as an excuse for posting slop.

Being lazy and uneducated is not a disability.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's the webpage for a quadriplegic painter. What's your excuse?

https://joniandfriends.org/jonis-artwork/

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, all disabled people have the same ability.

None of them need accessibility tools like image descriptions and segmentation, or dictation and writing assistance.

You got me.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Enough with the deliberate bad faith takes. You're not fooling anyone. It's just infantile.

The point is that pick any disability you can imagine, and you'll find people with that disability creating art. And creating art in countless fields and media. Is it easier to get an LLM to vomit out an image for you? Sure. But again, the same thing applies to non-disabled people.

This has nothing to do with having a disability. It has everything to do with being lazy.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I never ever said anything to the contrary of that.

I said generative ai can be used to help disabled people.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like the problem solved itself

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

So there's tech that I think is both bad for society and incredibly unethical in it's creation and propagation that is nothing to say of the utter privacy nightmare it poses for its users.

But all of this is now okay so long as the person using it is from a disadvantaged enough background?

Like, I understand that we want to make extra effort in order to accommodate those with disabilities in our society and part of that can be some moral compromise.

But surely this has limits, no? In fact I know that those limits exist.

But is it really ableism to defer to those?

I'm not saying that the person you encountered wasn't ableist. But there is a lot more nuance there than "people who hate 'AI' are ableist by default". The same way that people who are in favour of abolishing cars in their city are not doing so to specifically take mobility options away from paraplegics.

[–] pinto@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

God forbid a disabled person use a tool to aid themselves, might as well hate on TTS programs and motorized wheelchairs.

Watch, they'll claim they don't dislike the disabled person, but also will shit talk them more than an able person.