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[–] Diligent_Pickle2459@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Very overpriced for what it is...

[–] IOnlyPostNiceThings@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

When I got my M1 Max MBP I said I imagined upgrading when M5 came out, that’s looking to be on schedule. I see M4 being another iterative release and then M5 bringing OLED, reduced notch, 2nm CPU and more in an actual redesign.

[–] Crallac@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve got an iPhone, Apple Watch, and an iPad. For some reason a MacBook has never interested me one bit…

[–] Matcha_99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

In Europe:

Non Pro 14” 8GB RAM: FROM 2050€

Pro 14” 8GB RAM: FROM 2600€

Pro 16” 8GB RAM: FROM 3100€

[–] MrGunny94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

8GB RAM for base models have to go, or at least make the RAM upgrades cheaper

[–] firelitother@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The prices of the M3 Pro and Max are just...dang!

[–] sersoniko@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I want my 4th USB-C back…

[–] SpaceXBeanz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have zero reason to upgrade from my 14” M1 Pro with 16gb ram. I use it for work and all I do are spreadsheets and email. It’ll last me years. I just use portable ssd’s to increase the base 512gb ssd.

[–] Remic75@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I like this. 13 inch is finally dropped and they threw the chip into the 14 inch pro which was better in nearly every aspect. Touchbar was wasted potential and it’s time to move on from it.

Also the pricing ladder on the configuration page is… fascinating.

My only complaint is the damn 8GB of unified memory and especially the 1TB 8GB listed on the site but I will say that the MacBooks do an amazing job in both hardware and software when it comes to ram management.

13 inch MacBook Pro M1 user

[–] Green_Teal@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The base M3 14 inch still comes in Space Grey. I was very confused. Also drops a USB-C port?

[–] Scraiix@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Aaaaand has 8GB shared memory 🤮

[–] lambardar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got the m1 max with 64gb ram when it came out. I was looking forward to this event, hoping to upgrade.

If you compare the m1 max to the m3 max; there isn't much of a difference. It's got more cores & ram, but that's about it. 1 hour additional battery life and every else is same.

[–] ApprehensiveSand@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But why? I also have a 64GB m1max, I can't imagine wanting to upgrade for the next 3-4 years, even if they did come out with something substantially faster. Moore's law is dead, I doubt it'll be much more than 10-15% year on year.

[–] lambardar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I run VMs. Visual code for mac is buggy, so I run it under windows. Usually I have a couple of projects in parallel and I need ram.

32GB out of the 64GB is allocated to the windows VM and then there's some other small VMs for intermittent stuff that need to be "sandboxed".

Why bother with OSX? The base OS is better integrated with the hardware. I'm past that moment in life where you love to tinker & experiment. Now I just want things to work, so I can finish what I want to do. And the battery life is much much better.

I was excited about the 128GB Ram option; but there's nothing more. Hoping there's a decent ARM windows laptop out soon with 20 hours battery life.

[–] ApprehensiveSand@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your use case is wild. my project also needs 64GB of ram to run, but we moved away from VMs, just docker. m1max builds over twice as fast as our i9 machines did, and m2max was about 15% quicker, but I'm fine with my m1max.

What's buggy about VS code for you? I don't use it as a primary IDE but I find it find for lightweight stuff. I've just always preferred jetbrains IDEs, if you're doing .net I strongly recommend giving rider a go.

[–] lambardar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

VS Code for osx is fine.

VS for osx was in "preview" the last 3-4 versions I tried. Things would randomly not work. I would upgrade hoping some bugs were fixed. Some versions were more stable than others. The last version I was trying had a broken "git", so that pushed me to branch off and commit to the windows VM. (puns intended)

[–] ApprehensiveSand@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, lol yeah, I briefly used it before rider. Rider is really just "resharper the IDE", and VS was always garbage without resharper imo.

I'd never use git in a gui app, it's well worth learning CLI git well, once you get used to it you never go back.

[–] SquadPoopy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This Christmas I was going to buy the 15 inch Air with 16GB of RAM and the 1 TB of storage. I’m trading in my current M1 Air so it should be about $500 in trade in.

But now I’m going to have to completely rethink what I buy. The total for the Air as specified above is $1,899. But the 14 inch M3 MBP with the same specs is $1,999. THEN the base M3 Pro MBP is also $1,999 but only has 512 GB of storage but I can get the 1 TB and it would only be $200 more. This laptop is going to be the laptop that gets me through the next 4 years of college and beyond, so I have to figure out what the hell I’m going to get.

Thank god I have another 2 months before I decide.

[–] Phaggg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Heaps of people are going to school and college with M1 Macs, I don’t even see the point of your upgrade since you’re moving from M1 to M2 which isn’t gonna make a dent

I used up a little over halfway of my 256GB SSD when I went to uni.

[–] designated_fridge@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm a full-specced Intel MBP and due an upgrade at my job so was happy to see a (brief) comparison with Intel as well. 11x faster is actually crazy.

[–] Notsimplyheinz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still have the M1 base MBP.. and I don’t feel the need to upgrade. Machine hasn’t broken a sweat with everything I’ve thrown at it since I’ve owned it.

[–] DJ_Cas@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This. Same and I don’t see a real plus/value in M2/M3 machines

[–] gentmick@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I hate apple always know the most popular ram and storage option and always give you one option lower for base model

[–] lukemb65@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

New chips - Awesome, £2599 starting price for a base model MacBook Pro 16 inch - Not awesome.

Really want to transition to Apple Silicon Macs but to spend £3599 on a model with better ram and storage is insane.

[–] operator7777@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Time to upgrade from my M1 Pro

[–] Bittersweetblossom@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s a shame they only put an M3 chip inside the IMac while the MacBooks get the Pro & Max.

[–] sylfy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Did they really just say up to 11 hours additional battery life, and just breeze past it in 5 seconds like it was nothing?

I’m curious what this was in comparison to, and what accounts for this improvement in battery life.

That alone seems pretty nuts, even without taking anything else into account.

[–] thesagenibba@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

WHAT?! Ive been saving up for the $2500 custom M2 pro. wffffff idk what to do now

[–] Horace3210@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not even lpddr5x, it's just lpddr5, disappointment

[–] rosydingo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not “blinded” or hyped by M3 specs. Bought MBP M2, 2 months ago. 16GB, 1TB. Replaced my 2013 13” MBP! So, in for a long haul - if the M2 chip proves itself to be as reliable and resilient as the intel was.