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*Supports Avi Lewis*
*Joins Liberals*
At least with the Conservative floor crossers, you can see how they would get the idea of Carney maybe helping advance their ultimate goals. But this does not make sense to me. The way Carney is governing is pretty much at odds with Avi Lewis-type policy.
In both cases she's supporting the person with the most power
I'd usually stick a quote from the article in the body, but really, there's nothing to say.
The prime minister now needs two more Liberal MPs to reach 172 seats, which would give him a thin majority in the House of Commons.Β
There are three upcoming byelections that could get Carney to that spot β depending on what voters decide.
This would have been my pick of the lot.
Two of those seats were liberal, and the liberals are now polling ahead of where they were in election season. So a majority is functionally guaranteed.
I try not to think of guarantees in politics, especially these days, but yes thereβs a high likelihood of a majority.
I'm broadly of the view that MPs really should seek to represent their electorate first, so, if she believes this is the best way to represent her electorate and that's her motivation, fine. But, it's not great for the health of Canadian democracy overall to move closer to a two-party system.
I would really like to see the NDP have a federal resurgence. It's going to have to come through new messaging that can cut through and connect with voters. It will be tough to make that happen while fear of the US is the main emotional driver pushing non-Maple-MAGA Canadians to huddle together under the banner of the Liberals. That could well take years, but on the other side of it there will be opportunity if the groundwork is done right while the party is on the outside.
A lot of Canadians are feeling cost of living woes. I think that's how the Conservatives did so well last election. It's mind boggling that the NDP hasn't been able to represent that to the electorate and purpose solutions that catch voters attention - but I guess that tells us something about the NDP.
I agree. The NDP has been missing the mark on that. Not to say it hasn't been part of the messaging from their MPs, but it really hasn't been something cohesive and credible. Once the party has a new leader, they've really got to get their strategy pinned down for how to reconnect with the people and they've gotta go after it with a cohesive voice so they're a party voters will trust and want to vote for when the time comes.
I think we honestly need to push for a more representative voting method, so the people are better represented. I'm not sure how we get there, but I think it's better for the majority than collapsing into two parties, which FPTP tends to do.
if she believes this is the best way to represent her electorate and thatβs her motivation, fine
I'd have liked to see a town hall meeting or other community consultation at the very least. Absent that, I can't help but think it's motivated by self-interest
With Carney pulling the Liberal party further right and PP steering the Conservative party off a cliff it makes sence for some conservatives to cross. But with no Liberas moving to NDP, Green, or Bloc and now an NDP leaving it feels shity. I heard the she did it to get more support for indigenous issues but what guarantees would this afford her?Β
Her 38,000 people are served by doing what they voted for. They clearly wanted a balance of power for the liberals otherwise they would have voted liberal.
As disappointed as I am to see what little remains of the NDP further erode towards a 2 party system, I completely understand why she would switch.
Rebuilding the NDP starts with setting direction via the leadership election. I think both frontrunners offer visions that would prove popular with a significant portion of Canadians. For now it's Carney's vision that dominates the conversation and it's proving popular in the absence of a better one, while keeping whatever the fuck PP's selling on the shelf.
Why do say that? Did they Jennica Atwin her?
Given the history of people who cross getting relected I wouldn't be surprised if some of those Conservatives show up on the board of companies associated to Carney.
For Idlout her unique geographic(Nunavut) position and with the current Artic/Military spending she could see some seat winning funds going to her riding.
And this is also proves my response a few days ago regarding the NDP.
Holy cow the debate was brutal. Its like 5 of the worst candidates they could find. I was actually excited when Jagmeet stepped down, now I feel like nobody with a brain wants to join them.
The French debate was even worse, apparently
What sort of candidate were you hoping for?
A pro labor type with a brain, who doesn't resort to low brow talking points like government run grocery stores and greedflation. I liked Mulcair a lot, though mainly after he left politics, back when elbowgate was the dumbest things the NDP said.
What was it about Mulcair that you like? He always seemed very Liberal to me and never proposed policy that seemed very pro labour (e.g. balance the budget in one year). I can tell you aren't a fan of Avi Lewis, but all the candidates are more pro labour than Mulcair and IMO have proposed better policy than him.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, the prime minister who tried pushing a bill that would bypass treaty rights for the sake of "nation-building" projects is the right person to side with for the benefit of a territory comprised mainly of indigenous people.
Any respect I've had for her is gone, the logic is lacking, and all she's done with this is act as a pawn for Liberals to try to appear favourable to indigenous people or have the veneer of being such despite their anti-indigenous policies.
Meh, disappointing.
Clearly, Carney is basically the NDP.
Okay, I'm joking. But IIRC that was the Lemmy reaction with the Conservative floor crossers. (The reaction to this one seems like barely contained salt)
If I voted for such a floor-crosser, I'd feel so betrayed
I understand the feeling. It's a feature of our system, so it's legit, but I'd still be grumpy.
Legal, yes. Ethical?
This is bullshit. If an MP wants to switch parties, they should hold a by-election.
What pork is Carney giving her? Senate appointment?
Why? Parties aren't part of our system.
They won to be an MP, being in a club doesn't change that.
Apparently most voters didn't vote for the sake of the person. Half of the voters don't even know the name of the local candidate: https://narrativeresearch.ca/only-half-of-canadians-know-the-names-of-the-candidates-in-their-riding-and-voting-is-generally-based-on-loyalty-to-a-party-or-topical-policies-and-issues/
NICE! Nearly a slam dunk for a majority now
Just depends on the outcome of the byelections
Two are needed, two are safe seats, the Liberals have a double digit poll lead.