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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 156 points 3 weeks ago

Gas prices go brrrrrrr

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 137 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Wright posted that "the US Navy successfully escorted an oil tanker through the Strait of Hormuz to ensure oil remains flowing to global markets," crediting President Donald Trump with "maintaining stability of global energy during the military operations against Iran."

Within hours, a senior source in the IRGC's naval force told Iranian outlet Iran Now that the claim "has no basis in truth," insisting that no US-escorted tanker had transited the strait.

The source described the announcement as part of a "media war and attempts to mislead public opinion," adding that the strait remains under "precise surveillance" by Iranian forces and that "any military movement in the area is fully monitored."

Wright subsequently deleted the post without public explanation, undermining a week of administration messaging aimed at convincing the world that commercial traffic would soon resume.

For an administration that relies so heavily on propaganda lies, they are remarkably terrible at lying.

In any case, even if it were true and not a pathetic lie, Donald Trump would deserve no credit for slightly mitigating the problems Donald Trump caused when Donald Trump decided to start bombing Iran and slaughtering its civilians.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The trick is the people they’re lying to won’t look past the surface, so the lie does not have to be good.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I used to work for Anthroplogie (kinda bougie clothing store). We sold bound copies of On Bullshit, marketed largely because the title is funny and would look good on a coffee table. One day, while it was slow, I started reading it. In case folks don't know, it's actually a guy's doctoral thesis for his philosophy degree and aims to establish "bullshit" as a philosophical category. It's brilliant and completely changed the way I see things.

See, philosophy is battle between truth and falsehood. The author argues that bullshit is a greater threat to truth than a lie. This is because a lie needs the truth in order to be effective, whereas bullshit does not care one way or another. What we're seeing now is not the US government lying to people. It's the US government spouting bullshit. So yeah, they don't care if the lie is good. Because they're not lying. They're bullshitting.

EDIT: Apparently there are now two books with that title! The one of which I'm referring is by Harry Frankfurt (and is available online as a PDF if I'm not mistaken).

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So there is apparently two different books titled that. Is it the Harry Frankfurt one?

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 17 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, yes. That one.

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[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At a certain point the propaganda stops making any sense on purpose. It's not designed to deceive. It's used to identify resistance.

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[–] madde@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

the timeline in which the IGRC's public statement are more trustworthy than US officials...

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Flood the zone with shit" means it's more important to tell many lies fast than to tell any lies well.

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[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Oil companies and oil tanker crews are subject to the same fog of war as everyone else. They don't know if there are mines. They don't know if they can trust the US government to protect them or pay out the insurance. They have seen US bases get bombed. They don't know if the US is lying or not because trust in the US is at an all time low.

It doesn't matter if the strait is mined or not, because the perception the strait could be mined is enough. It is simply not worth the risk.

Edit: lmao nevermind. 3 ships just tried running the blockade. Emphasis on tried

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

They don't know if the US is lying or not because trust in the US is at an all time low.

Yup.

I wonder why.

Oh right because the US commander-in-queef is a Russian shill because Russia managed to influence the US enough to make the whole country cognitively challenged through environmental lead (more of an accident than anything purposefully neurotoxic but anyway) and the destruction of the US education system.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Once again posting this chart because when you realize which age group has the most enthusiastic Trump supporters, and you recognize the correlation between their behavior habits and the neuropsychological symptoms of lead poisoning during childhood development, everything starts to make way more sense.

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tanker-insurance is impossible to get, now, therefore there simply won't be any ships going through, until that gets remedied.

& it won't get remedied until MUCH more than "an assertion that it's clear" is in-place.

https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/actuarial-warfare-how-seven-insurance

It's going to be 1/4y MINIMUM before ships begin going through, again, from the looks of that..

maybe closer to a year.

Dominoes got BIG, thanks to the economic-rules underpinning everything in industry..

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

They don't know if they can trust the US government to protect them or pay out the insurance.

With how many of Trump's lawyers got their bills paid in full and on time, I would be skeptical too.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Markets going up in response.

Lolz. Lmao, even.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump said it’s almost over, so uhh, I guess mission accomplished?

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We certainly didn't hear about Epstein the past couple of weeks so yeah, mission accomplished

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Its because European countries announced they are going to release strategic reserves.

I still don't get it though because that only covers 2 weeks and Iran has already taken down some permanent capacity in the region and a bunch of places had to stop pumping (meaning well mineralization and reopening times of months). I would expect oil to be at $100 even with the strategic reserves announcement.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, but you see that's a problem for future people.

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[–] cyrano@piefed.social 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please. Machiavelli

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.

- George Orwell

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump, the climate change denialist, doing his best to speed up the green energy transition.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Prices for everything will increase...again. Thank to the MAGA and Likud fucknuts!

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

The convoy idea is so dumb that I can't believe anyone said it out loud. Effective strategy against commerce raiders, which Iran explicitly does not have. Might as well offer to mount a CIWS on tankers and hope your insurance premiums will see it as a wash (they won't). Makes as much sense as suggesting you counter drones with cavalry.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

If I was one of those oil companies, I’d say sure. You staff the tanker with your people and you insure us for any losses incurred. Also, put an upfront amount of insurance money in escrow.

But we’re not risking lives, merchandise, and equipment. You want the oil that badly. You move it. We’re just going to raise oil prices to cover our losses in the meantime, so we’re fine.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Oh they tried this, admin offered to pay oil companies for damages and move it themselves. Little catch there is tanker ships take half a decade or longer to build. The companies cannot afford to roll the dice on losing one, even if they'll get reimbursed for the ship. They lose capacity ($$$) waiting for the replacement.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And USA doesn't build those ships.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, losses would wouldn’t just be the cargo and the ship, it would be a decade long hit to earnings. And I’d want to see money for all of that, in escrow, before I moved an inch. Trump is famous for not paying his debts. I’d want all that money secured upfront.

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[–] songwriterallnighter@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 weeks ago

What do ya know, consequences. Carpet combing, killing their kids and turning their country into fucking hellscape.

[–] user28282912@piefed.social 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Nice to see the US government still supporting EVs these days.

I still think that EV rebates and tax credits would be more cost efficient and much less jarring than provoking Iran into destroying 20% of the world's oil supply... but I guess that I am too simple-minded for politics.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Gas is $5 near me. EVs are gonna start flying off dealer's lots subsidy or not

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 27 points 3 weeks ago

Trump went like "Why just stop with US when I can fuck supermarket prices globally"

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump denied this, and it is extremely unlikely. Iran has the full power to sink every ship that comes close with drones alone, and is why no US navy ship dares come close. The Yemen Houthis have to this day still closed the Red Sea to undesirable traffic, (despite yet another mission accomplished bombing campaign by Trump) and they have less than 1/10th the power of Iran.

Mines would be a sign of loss of control, but more likely the US is bombing small civilian boats under guises that they could lay mines.

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[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Decarbonise already FFS, make this irrelevant

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Shits getting expensive....

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If US politicians ever imposed consequences on rich elites we might have avoided having had to learn the lesson of consequences from Iran.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there any evidence of actual mine-laying? All I saw was Trump's Truth Social post which started with "if Iran has started laying mines, which we have no reports of"

Everything is propaganda.

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[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice work Iran. I hope one sinks a US navy ship.

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[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Please, someone tell me I'm not the only idiot that read this and thought they were trying to do the other type of mining.

The one that doesn't make sense at all, but rather than realising that's not the mining they were doing, because it doesn't make sense. I just got more confused as to what they possibly could have found there worth mining for in the middle of a war.

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