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[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 88 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)
[–] baconsunday@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

What keeps a peach from being a single-seed berry or from an avocado being a drupe?

Edit: low-key love that we are all learning by sharing knowledge and evidence. It's refreshing.

Edit 2: Fun Fact. Did you know Oklahoma has Watermelon as the State's Vegetable?

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah this doesn't make any sense

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In other words, by my understanding, peaches have a pit containing their seeds, but avocados just have a seed.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do avocados not have a pit?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We call it that but the whole thing is just a big ol seed

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But how is that any different than a peach? I’m so confused by this.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Peach pits aren't seeds, but they have a seed inside.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like the endocarp in the avocado is imperceptible, whereas it is the hard pit in peaches and other drupes, per Wikipedia

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Wikipedia says some categorize avocadoes as drupes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany)

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Drupes have pits contained within a hard shell (I guess called an endocarp?).

Peach pits look like an almond inside of a walnut shell basically. Avocados just have a really large seed in direct contact with the buttery soft mesocarp.

I don't know who decided to classify gourds, melons, and citrus fruits as berries, but I imagine they had mischief in mind...

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, my favorite berry... the avocado.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I enjoy a good pumpkin berry. Fresh from the vine.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

An apple sounds much less appealing when you describe it as an indecent (achoo) swollen receptacle tissue with a soft mesocarp...

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Swollen receptacle tissue you say

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Man I am glad I tasted fruit before I read this.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I guess so? Which I suppose means all the other gourds/squash/melons/cucumbers are too

[–] Swallows_Dick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Chat is this real

[–] Klear@quokk.au 2 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty fruity

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aubergines, cucumbers, kiwi, and citrusfruit are botanical berries as well. The correct answer is that berry should be seen as a culinary term just like fruit and vegetable.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Well ackthually... that's a legume

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not only that, banana is a grass berry.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fruit is sweet, vegetables are savory, berries are what I declare to be a berry. Done and done

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most "fruit" are sweet because we made them so. And we did so with plenty of vegetables too.

Sweetest thing in my garden are tomatoes.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Once you grow your own tomatoes, supermarket just won't do. It's a different world, we are tomato buddies

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so excited to start planting; all the tomato seeds we planned last weekend have already germinated

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fish are fishy.

Mushrooms in the vegetable section hoping no one calls them out

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Humans accidentally named blueberries correctly.

[–] null@lemmy.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

Berries aren't berries. Vegetables aren't real.

[–] SpacePanda@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

And pumpkin, peppers, cucumbers, zucchini,...

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn't know plants have ovaries. Does that mean that strawberries are like an afterbirth? Are seedless fruit menstrual flow?

Maybe humans could evolve so that the bloody placenta attracts wolves who then raise the baby.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You know that white stuff that the seeds attach to in chilis? That’s the placenta! It’s the spiciest part of the whole pepper!

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I can't tell if you've ruined chilies for me, or if something else is happening.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How about this: mangrove trees give 'birth'.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Now I need to know if Blackberry is a berry.

*No:

The usually black fruit is not a berry in the botanical sense, as it is termed botanically as an aggregate fruit, composed of small drupelets.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's the same as tomato being taxonomically a fruit. Taxonomically does not mean culinarily. Most people use culinary terms for these. Tomato is a vegetable. The first berry group is berries. Etc.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

At times like these I'm kinda ok with portuguese lacking a "proper" word for berry. "Bago" or "baga" isn't really used, at least not in everyday life, everyone will always refer to them as fruits

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

All could’ve been solved with some inclusivity, but nooo…