So the water usage of data centers/ai has long been controversial (either a huge issue/a non issue/distraction depending on who you ask) and the lack of real numbers around it made it hard to know more (but data center owners keeping it a secret made it sus). But now the stats of one google data center have been released due to legal pressure. 2-8 million gallons a day
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This is comparable to the amount of water used by cherry farmers near Google's site in The Dalles, who (according to my napkin) use somewhere between 2-8x what Google uses. This isn't that much water for the Columbia River though; on an average day, it has enough flow in less than a minute to provide for both the cherry farmers and Google all day. However, it would be a big problem for a smaller river. (Interestingly, while fresh water is essential for datacenters, Google originally desired that site because it was cheap land next to cheap hydroelectric power.)
Genuine questions borne of ignorance:
When they say "using" water, is this water that has to be actively removed from the supply each day, or does this number just say how much water is circulating in the center? I'm assuming it doesn't all disappear, or does a lot of it end up released as steam or piped away as contaminated water or something?
The data center nearest to me uses sea-water, but I have no idea how much. And it doesn't seem to put out steam or dump bad water back into the sea (not that I could tell if they were doing that).
I totally understand the electricity resource issue for data centers but the water usage thing confuses me, because I assumed it would be for cooling and therefore mostly contained and recirculated. With the exception of predictable maintenance issues like leaks and waste from mineral scale or algae, I don't understand why this water would need to disappear, or why they would need to use potable water from the outset.
Admittedly my mental model is based on consumer CPU water-cooling setups at an imagined industrial scale. What am I missing?
https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/02/chatgpt-uninstalls-surged-by-295-after-dod-deal/
Some of my faculty have called for a campus wide boycott. Relatedly, the Scott Galloway scoreboard is up to $250m hit to tech market cap: https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com/
while OpenAI deserves every bit of flack they get, it's comical to see people who criticise OpenAI for creating a 'war machine' turn around and praise Anthropic when they were-by their own admission no less!-the first people to start using AI for military purposes
Mildly positive news: there is a fork of the Zed editor with the llm autocomplete stuff ripped out now: https://gram.liten.app/posts/first-release/
(I’ve used zed with the ai kill switch and really like the buffer/editing ux; but it’s always felt a bit gross, I’m excited to see where the fork goes)
jesus fuck https://urbit.org/blog/olif-and-urbit-ids
with urbit, you can now sniff each other's farts
I don't know why, but it still amazes me how fast some people have went full crackhead with LLM's:

This piece on how doomers and rationalists have made everything worse with their "AGI is nigh" shtick and ended up giving AI companies way more power than they should and getting chatbots into the military, where they will almost certainly fuck up and kill people
Sam Altman Is Realizing He Made a Gigantic Mistake
You don’t say!
“We were genuinely trying to de-escalate things and avoid a much worse outcome, but I think it just looked opportunistic and sloppy,” he wrote. “Good learning experience for me as we face higher-stakes decisions in the future.”
Yes of course this is just a learning opportunity... higher stakes decisions in the future...
Cuz making deals with the biggest military in the western world that involve autonomous use of weapons and possible escalation to all out nuclear war sounds pretty low stakes. /s
Fucking muppet
Altman claimed that the company would “amend our deal” to add the prohibition of “deliberate tracking, surveillance, or monitoring of US persons or nationals.”
...so the original statement was a lie then? the CEO who is notorious for being a liar lied? I am very surprised about this information.
I’ve been seeing some people (not here, I’ve been taking a break) saying that we shouldn’t be mean to clankers by bringing up Kant’s position on being nice to animals. Well. Fuck all that.
animals are like sentient beings y'know, a clanker is a… matrix or a bunch of matrices or something
Hey, you're selling them short: there are also ReLU and softmax activation functions thrown around here and there. Clankers aren't just linear transformations! /j
Thought inspired by some git on the red site, basically their premise was that birthrates are declining because we no longer have a society with a 2-parent nuclear family with one "breadwinner".
Here's my counterproposal to the implied idea we need to implement The Handmaid's Tale:
Ban contraception and abortion but if you get pregnant, there is no stigma to giving birth out of wedlock. The delivery is safe and paid for, and should you wish, the child will be reared in state-funded orphanages. These institutions will be receive more than adequate funding. Their charges will be given preferred entry to the best schools and universities, as well as preferential treatment when it comes to future employment. It will be illegal to discriminate against anyone so raised.
Surely this will raise the birthrate, right?